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What figures of national importance dying would involve schools needing a flag?

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PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 05/12/2019 22:32

Not sure if this is bullshit but heard something along these lines tonight and am wondering if this scenario would only apply to a member of the royal family or would flags be involved for other public figures ?

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EdithWeston · 05/12/2019 23:02

No where that does not fly a flag already is required to obtain one.

Places which have them should follow whatever instructions are made about flying at half mast (when, how long). It's not compelled as such, but wouid be widely expected.

I'd expect formal instructions if there were national mourning for the monarch. It can also happen at other times, in respect of public feeling. Which doesn't just mean national, it could be anyone who is particularly linked to a place.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 05/12/2019 23:20

Thanks Edith.

What figures of public importance would get the flag treatment upon their death?

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Yappy12 · 05/12/2019 23:23

Just three. The Queen, Boris and Gary Glitter.

Pilipilihoho · 05/12/2019 23:26

You forgot about Cliff, Yappy Grin

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 05/12/2019 23:28

Yappy I feel like Margo does about jokes in 'The Good Life' with respect to your response!

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anxioussue · 05/12/2019 23:30

Schools don't need a flag if they don't already have one. It's usually obvious which ones do.

EatsFartsAndLeaves · 05/12/2019 23:32

Eh? Why would a school need a flag? Ours can't afford books!

diamantegal · 05/12/2019 23:33

But confused by the vote. What am I meant to voting for?!

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 05/12/2019 23:36

I suspect it's bollocks and probably related to that twitter hoax the other night but an associate has said that a local authority has contacted some schools in a region alerting them to the imminent death of a high profile public figure and mentioning flags protocol.

As I said probably a load of old hogs but it got me thinking whether this would apply to anyone outside of the royal family?

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FlibbertyGiblets · 05/12/2019 23:37

Wait, voting in _chat? Who knew!

I would add to the list St David of Attenborough and will genuinely weep into my pinny.

PaulHollywoodsleftbollockhair · 05/12/2019 23:37

Feck knows re the weird vote thing...

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cortex10 · 05/12/2019 23:41

Every council has protocols for flags and death of a significant royal including when and how long flags are flown and location of books of condolence. Assume this extends to schools. Eg https://www.northlincs.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Flag-Flying-Protocol.pdf

Selfsettling3 · 05/12/2019 23:42

Is this the Queen again? Poor women is dying every couple of days at the moment.

FrancisCrawford · 05/12/2019 23:43

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EatsFartsAndLeaves · 06/12/2019 00:37

Why would it extend to schools? I'm 99.9% certain that our school does not have a flagpole. Why would it? We're not in the US!

TooleyVanDooley · 06/12/2019 01:09

Can’t believe schools need to acquire a flag unless they normally fly one (and I don’t recall ever seeing a school with a flag).

As for whose death would require a flag response on public buildings that already do flags: I would have thought just senior members of the royal family and the incumbent prime minister. Possibly the leader of the opposition? All of those folk have been seen in public looking totally fine in the last couple of days, with the exception of the Duke of Edinburgh. The Queen looks remarkably well for a dead woman.

TooleyVanDooley · 06/12/2019 01:11

Actually, probably ex prime ministers would count as well.

lifeisgoodagain · 06/12/2019 01:31

It's a few national figures but also local to you eg we lowered ours after the Leicester city helicopter crash. I have protocols for the Queen and Prince Philip's departure from this world.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 06/12/2019 01:47

Not a school, but I work in Local.govenment and our main building has a flag. We have flown it at half mast for events such as the Manchester bombing even though we are nowhere near Manchester.

There was a row a few years ago when it was flown at half mast after the bombing in Brussels airport as lots of people pointed out there are bombs killing civilians in other places eg Afghanistan and we don't fly the flag at half mast for them. The response was that we fly the flag at half mast following terrorist atrocities in Europe because we are an EU member state. So I presume we won't do this after Brexit.

The only individual death I can think of which would lead to the flag being flown at half mast is The Queen or possibly Prince Charles.

fallfallfall · 06/12/2019 01:50

readily available on google
Flags should be flown at half-mast on the following occasions:

From the announcement of the death until the funeral of the Sovereign, except on Proclamation Day when flags are flown at full-mast following the proclamation.
From the announcement of the death until the funeral of a member of the Royal Family styled ‘Royal Highness’, subject to special commands from the Sovereign in each case.
On the day of the announcement of the death and on the day of the funeral of other members of the Royal Family, subject to special commands from the Sovereign in each case.
The funerals of foreign Rulers, subject to special commands from the Sovereign in each case.
The funerals of Prime Ministers and ex-Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, subject to special commands from the Sovereign in each case.
The funerals of First Ministers and ex-First Ministers of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, subject to special commands from the Sovereign in each case. Unless otherwise commanded by the Sovereign, this only applies to flags in their respective countries.
At British Embassies, High Commissions and Missions when flags in the host country are flown at half-mast, subject to the discretion of the Chef de Mission.
Any other occasions where the Sovereign has given a special command.
If the body of a very distinguished citizen is lying in a building, the flag should fly at half-mast on that building until the body has left.

Flags at full-mastA Stand of Flags at Full-mast
Flags at half-mastThe Same Stand at Half-mast
An alternative mark of mourning, used when half-masting is unsuitable, is to add a black cravat or ribbon to the top of the flag, at the hoist.

The above cover Royal and National Mourning, but flags may be flown at half-mast on private or non-Government buildings on other relevant occasions. Flags fly at full-mast on Remembrance Sunday.

where i live, flags are often flown at half mast when a police officer passes away. local officials who held public office such as a mayor.

i think it's respectful

anxioussue · 06/12/2019 02:25

Ours has a school flag but it's about the only one I know that has.

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