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Help please - dirty knickers!

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wispawispa · 04/12/2019 15:53

Name changed because I feel a bit icky writing about poo!

I need help with my DD who is reception aged, coming home with dirty knickers everyday 😟. She never has accidents, but is absolutely rubbish at wiping because her poo is so squidgy and gets everywhere. Today she had to be helped because she had smeared it all up her back and her school T-shirt. I feel sad that she can't keep clean.

She did seem to get better for a while because I removed milk from her diet (she said it made her tummy hurt) but have been using lacto-free because she seemed fine with that. Now the problem is back though.

Please don't say that I need to teach her how to wipe - I have done this for so long, but there's so much mess that she seems to struggle. It's almost like diarrhoea, but daily. I've been to the GP who basically said it's one of those things and that dairy intolerance is a bit of a fad!

She always seems to go after dinner at school, and rarely at home before or after when I could help her. I've thought about asking her to wait, but don't want to cause other problems.

Does anyone have any advice please 🤞?

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Molly2010 · 04/12/2019 17:05

Oh and she never went at school! Always held it until she came home.

IdblowJonSnow · 04/12/2019 17:06

Your GP is a twat.
If shes not clean she could end up with a UTI.
Please have a chat with the teacher until its resolved.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 04/12/2019 17:07

My dd had similar OP turns out she had impacted feaceas (not spelt right but i think you will get it!) She had tummy ache and her stools went from sloppy and sticky to bullet like.It is so common in children but you do need a second opinion. My dd was perscribed some lactulose and some sort of powders to drink.It took about 3 months but she is fully back to normal now.Go back to the GP would be my advice.Hope she gets sorted soon and is much more comfortable .

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avocadoze · 04/12/2019 17:10

My dc had similar - it was encopresis and needed to be treated with movicol. It is very common and it’s as the pp and @LightTripper described, and produced similar symptoms to your dd. We also assumed it was a dairy problem and had the dc dairy free for about a year before we got to the root of it.

CountryCob · 04/12/2019 17:10

Just to say you are not letting her down sounds like you are trying your best and some good ideas here re lactose. Holland and barret do an excellent chewable friendly bacteria tablet to help boost gut health which they can have from 3. My daughter loves them and eats them and sweets if she can get them, obviously not a good idea but she has always been fine and they are high up - might be worth a try?

kateandme · 04/12/2019 17:11

it must get to the doctors though.everyone wants to be dairy fre these days.it has become an influencer fad for lots of people who just arent.whcih makes it harder for those actually allergic.
like the people who say they are gluten intolorant.no your not.there are real Celiac who will die from it.and 90 % they have now found arent.
people like to blame it on those thigns when actually its the shit in the rest of the product that they are reacting against.
plus lots of little ones can grow out of intolerance to dairy.
its seems very hip at the moment to say our intolerant mostly so you can pass of ur disordered fucked up issues with food

CountryCob · 04/12/2019 17:11

I would speak to teacher and ask “how they can support your daughter” with this issue

kateandme · 04/12/2019 17:15

CountryCob are thy sugar free?

CorBlimeyGovenor · 04/12/2019 17:16

Aww, you're not letting her down. On the contrary! You're doing all you can to support her!

Pancakeflipper · 04/12/2019 17:19

I've had a similar issue with my youngest. He's is dsiryfree.

I thought I'd have to wipe his bottom until he was an adult as it just smeared everywhere.
I found getting him into a routine of going and sitting on the loo in a morning or after school helped to get him to poo at home so it took away less chance of him needing a poo at school.

He is now 10. Totally no dairy and things have improved. Not perfect but he can deal with it himself and not leave the bathroom in a mess. A consultant we see for his gastric issues recommended a probiotic and that made some difference.
Speak to your doctor and ask for a referral to gastrology

FergusSingsTheBlues · 04/12/2019 17:23

OP my son was like this. He used to have complete accident at school.

I took out dairy and there was a huge improvement.

Next i started to give him probiotic

I gave him wipes and spare pants in his school bag and I think it gave him some reassurance.

Finally a star chart for clean bottom.

I know instant if he'd had much dairy, sticky mucous poo and not much consistency.

I also gave him loads of freshly squeezed juices partly as a prebiotic to support probiotic and partly to prevent any constipation

He's now 10 and OK as long as he only wve rhas dairy with his cereal. Other than that he's dairy free.

Stilllivinginazoo · 04/12/2019 17:26

Similar issues here with my youngest.she was treated for constipation which helped.dairy and lacto free aren't the same(learned from bitter experience)
We still have set backs of acute pain and dodgy bums and she's 12 now.it does get easier to manage.id certainly change g.p!!

FredFlinstoneMadeOfBones · 04/12/2019 17:28

Could you send her with a packed lunch for a while and see if things improve?

doritosdip · 04/12/2019 17:29

Ds' poo consistency alerted me to his food intolerances. He's intolerant to lactose and gluten.

With lactose you need to check food labels- it's in all sorts of unexpected things like jars of bolognese sauce.

Keep a food journal of what agrees/disagrees with her.

MyDcAreMarvel · 04/12/2019 17:31

Have a look on here www.eric.org.uk

spinn · 04/12/2019 17:35

There are so many possibilities that this could be linked to.

Agree with others re dairy allergy - lactose intolerance isn't the same as cows milk protein allergy (cmpa) and May very well be causing loose bowels. You May also find she has other symptoms that are being masked that are noticeable once she is solid.

Constipation can result in loose bowels - it really does appear like full movements.

Poor wiping technique - does she have any hypermobility? Smearing Nutella/peanuts butter on a plate and get her to wipe it off with tissue is a great one for working out the pressure and action needed.

Worth a trip to a gp but limited what they will do for any of the above as all can be managed with basic over the counter stuff or exclusion diets.

I have an 7yo who has been through all the above and still has bowel and bladder issues so I'm fairly well versed now in coping with this so feel free to ask any questions.

AllstarIsBrightbySmashMouth · 04/12/2019 17:37

Any doctor who says intolerances are a "fad" clearly shouldn't be in the profession. Christ alive.

Definitely try removing dairy completely from her diet. It definitely sounds like something doesn't agree with her, and dairy is a strong possibility.

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Loveislandaddict · 04/12/2019 17:38

Maybe worth considering gluten also. A friends child is gluten intolerant (not coeliac) and had similar symptoms.

bobsyourauntie · 04/12/2019 17:41

I am not a member of a medical profession, but DD had a similar problem and was diagnosed with constipation and had impacted poo. Constipation sounds daft when they have messy poo, but basically, they get bunged up, then the other stuff leaks around it, and is very messy.

I would ask the school to refer you to the school nurse, that was how we got help as she then referred us to the local bladder and bowel specialist nurse who was totally fab at sorting the problem out.

DD was prescribed Movical, not very nice initially as basically they need to build up to a big clear out, but things usually improve once they are on it.

www.eric.org.uk/

the above website has lots of help and advice.

AllstarIsBrightbySmashMouth · 04/12/2019 17:44

@kateandme there's a difference between coeliac and non coeliac gluten sensitivity and both mean gluten will make you physically ill - so let's not call people's actual health problems fads.

fussychica · 04/12/2019 17:46

Would it be worth seeing if she could try going to the loo after breakfast but before she goes to school. Perhaps trying to bring the time back a little every day during the Christmas holidays. Not a solution to the soft stools but it wouldn't leave her in this state, poor love.

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wispawispa · 04/12/2019 17:46

Crikey, I'm not a poo troll! How would I be duping anybody - what would be the point, and what or Earth for?

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AllstarIsBrightbySmashMouth · 04/12/2019 17:48

@kateandme or "disordered fucked up issues with food" fuck sake

Italianmoma1983 · 04/12/2019 17:48

Could she be gluten intolerant as in Coeliac disease ? I’d investigate

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