Do you believe in karma and have you seen it in action?

[SalemShadow]

Do you believe in karma and have you seen it in action? I have.

No. The only person I know to win the lottery was an absolute bastard

@Her0utdoors, did you swat them? Apparently you should never do that because they release a scent that attracts their friends. The best way to kill them is supposed to be hoovering them up!

Disclaimer, I have not verified this information!

I’d be astonished if anyone on this thread associates karma with sick children in hospital.

But that is the very meaning of karma, which is why it is illogical, offensive and quite frankly disablist. Stick your karma up your jacksie.

My personal belief is that shit happens. Only in the fantasy scripted world of hollywood movies or coercive religious doctrine do just desserts defy the fact that SHIT HAPPENS.

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/karma

Definition of karma

1 often capitalized : the force generated by a person's actions held in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence Each individual is born with karma, the residual from past lives that must be resolved …— Diane Goldner broadly : such a force considered as affecting the events of one's life Claude says, "You reap what you sow." I call this idea karma, that what goes around comes around. — Anthony Walton

Honestly? I suspect we’re all educated enough to be aware of the dictionary definition and philosophical concept of karma.

But I took the OP to be asking much more of a ‘what goes around, comes around’ type of question. This is a ‘chat’ thread, after all ...

Those saying about sick kids, that is not Karma that is unfortunate.
Karma hits when you knowingly go out of your way to do a bad thing to an innocent person. When it comes back around, it's always way worse. I have seen it happen and had it happen to me. Karma is the most patient gangster.

I hate to break this to you, but there is no equalising force that goes about righting wrongs done to the innocent by wreaking vengeance on the wrongdoers.

I am totally with @XXMansplainShieldActive

My partner cheated on me when our DS was 4 years old. It was a horrible time for us.
Shortly afterwards, the OW became quite seriously ill. Some might say and some did suggest that this was karma in action.
By that reckoning then, had I done something awful to deserve being cheated on? Had DS, in his 4 years, done something so bad that he deserved his dad leaving?

Or it just a case of a shitty thing happening to a person who had done a shitty thing?

I don't. But I do think that how you treat people can come back at you. Treat people badly, that is how you will be treated. Treat people well, kindly and with respect, that largely is the world you will experience. If it's not, you should have the ability still to stick to your values.

Of course not.

I don't subscribe to woo in any form.

@Princessfaffalot

I said it’s a sad situation, he was not a nice person, that’s why he is my ex. It’s me that has ironically taken his daughter in while he treats her awfully.

Be nice by all means, do unto others etc

BUT

please don't look at the person who is disabled and decide they musta done something to deserve it. Please don't waste any of your precious life under the illusion that there are goodies and baddies in life and all baddies will get what's coming to them.

To be clear, that is what Karma means.

You cannot be kind and decent to others in life whilst simultaneously believing that whatever shit happens to them they brought it on themselves somehow and must deserve it!

My Dd was murdered 4yrs ago. The evil bastard who murdered my Dd walked free on a NOT PROVEN verdict.
I had to watch him walking about free living his life. I fucking hated him.
In August this year we were informed he had died from a drug overdose. I had absolutely no sympathy for him, in fact I was livid no one had MURDERED him.
I don't believe in Karma sadly.

@ParkheadParadise

I don’t really believe in karma but I sort of feel that being nice and doing good stuff while still standing up for yourself breeds positivity and being a dick eventually catches up with you (in small or big ways).

It makes me feel better anyway and seems to have got me out of an inordinate amount of holes particularly in my professional life.

No. I think it's quite a dangerous belief, actually..

Karma doesn't exist. Of course it doesn't.

Schadenfreude does though, and it's absolutely fine to enjoy seeing someone get what you might consider to be payback.

No I don't believe in it. It's a way of people trying to believe they have some control over life when they don't.

I do however think that trying to act decently brings its own rewards.

I don't think OP meant Karma in the dictionary defined way, but more like 'have you seen an arsehole get their just deserts?' way. No sick kids involved. I don't think it's too much of a mind stretch to realise this.

No I don't. Ever heard the phrase "only the good die young"? Diana was a classic example. Within my own circle my DF (sweetest person ever) died at 56, FIL (second sweetest person ever) died at 69. Another male family member who was a most unpleasant person lived to 89.

Many years ago my family were forced from our home by paramilitaries for no other reason than they wanted our council house for one of their own.
5 men broke into our home and best my DW, eldest DS and myself with baseball bats and knuckledusters.
A few days ago the leader was caught by peadophile hunters. He had arranged to meet a young girl, supposedly 15, near her school but had infact been trying to groom the paedophile hunter. The video live streamed on Facebook showed him denying it then trying to claim she was over 17, he is 61. Then came the crying and faking a heart attack.
Seeing the police turn up and arrest him was so satisfying but the icing on the cake was the 200,000 views the video got, most of those from hsvfriends, friends of friends and beyond.

No ... Karma is bollocksIve seen bad people thrive and good, good people struck by tragedy.

I don't know why posters are getting so het up about the definition of karma, it's fairly commonly used not in the traditional Hindu/Buddhist sense but as more of 'what goes around comes around'. Nobody here is saying people who are unwell or disabled somehow deserve it because of what they did in a past life and it's a bit bizarre to insist that's what's really meant by using the word.

I certainly don't believe that but I do believe people sometimes reap what they sow. I had a boyfriend who cheated on me with his ex girlfriend and lied about it, made me think I was crazy. Eventually I dumped him and they got (back) together. A year or two down the line, by which time I was thoroughly moved on, he came home from work early and caught her cheating on him in their bed.

There's no force that made that happen but I do believe that he set himself up to be treated badly and deserved it - and what happened hurt him a fuckload more than it did me!