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Can anyone suggest travel insurance which allows you to EXCLUDE pre-existing medical conditions?

34 replies

Aridane · 01/12/2019 10:28

I have to buy some travel insurance (tour company won't take me without it).

I have some pre-existing medical conditions which make travel insurance very difficult to purchase (or even obtain).

I am very happy to have the medical conditions excluded as they are well managed (in my view and that of my GP).

However, I cannot find trVel insurers that will let you disclose medical conditions and then have them excluded. Some will underwrite you and themselves impose an exclusion but it is very time consuming as you through 20 minute + screening only to be declined or quoted a prohibitive price.

Many thanks

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PullingMySocksUp · 01/12/2019 10:30

Would an insurance broker be more help I wonder?

Aridane · 01/12/2019 10:34

You May be right.

But the silly thing is I am not looking for the medical conditions to be covered (where I probably would need a broker) but for them to be excluded!

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AdorableMisfit · 01/12/2019 10:37

Try Staysure?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

bilbodog · 01/12/2019 10:45

If you have a specific medical condition sometimes support groups for these conditions recommend insurance cos on their websites. My DH has epilepsy and he uses insurance with :

www.insurancewithpartners.com/EpilepsyAction/quote/

i dont know if they will be able to help you or not but perhaps worth a try? Good luck.

TheDIsiilusionedAnarchist · 01/12/2019 10:46

I have travel insurance through my Nationwide current account and can choose to exclude medical conditions. Not sure who provides their insurance though

Aridane · 01/12/2019 10:48

Stay sure 's website not currently functioning to allow full completion of an app.i action (unless merely entering my name now excludes me from typing anything else in)!

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Aridane · 01/12/2019 10:50

Ah - the Nationwide insurance sounds exactly like what I'm looking for!

Will see who their insurers are.

Funny if I end up having to change my current account provider just to access travel insurance which permits me to exclude pre-existing medical conditions!

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Aridane · 01/12/2019 10:59

Ha - Nationwide no longer offer travel insurance to new customers. Will still try to find out which insurers they were using

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chipsandpeas · 01/12/2019 11:00

im sure liverpool victoria lets you do this

AngusThermopyle · 01/12/2019 11:07

Does the Nationwide 'Flex Plus' account let new customers have it. It is at £13 p/m but is that worth it if so.

mencken · 01/12/2019 11:17

are you sure you want to do this? No repatriation? no costs covered at all for these conditions?

and good for the tour company not letting you travel uninsured.

wescarebecausewecare · 01/12/2019 11:26

City Bond Sure Travel. I was able to get a very reasonable quote from them

Aridane · 01/12/2019 11:32

@mencken - absolutely, yes, and following discussion with my GP. The tick box medical screening of insurers doesn't take into account the individual profile of a particular patient or the stability and improbability of recurrence of a particular cancer

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Aridane · 01/12/2019 11:35

@AngusThermopyle- no, it is no longer available to new customers

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Aridane · 01/12/2019 11:38

@wescarebecausewecare

Thank you so much - annual travel insurance now purchased! Smile

And what ease of application - when you declare the medical condition, you are given the option of request cover, exclude cover or decide later.

Thank you - Mumsnet achieved what Martin Lewis Money Saving Expert couldn't

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wescarebecausewecare · 01/12/2019 13:03

I'm glad to help!

MitziK · 01/12/2019 13:22

I used to work in Travel Insurance, specifically dealing with Medical Expenses claims for a lot of the time.

People who have a history of cancer are, sadly, inherently higher risk for multiple medical conditions in the future. Insurance companies have been caught by this and it's crap for both the ill person and anybody who has to deal with the claim, the angry relatives, the bad press, etc, etc.

The trouble the Insurers face is that, in the past where things could be excluded, is that if something happened, it wasn't necessarily completely separate - not just a secondary or metastases actually happening - I'm thinking of fractures due to a history of long term steroid use, that a more extensive screening would automatically take place in case it was due to bony metastases, that a lump discovered during the examination would automatically be investigated as to ignore it would count as medical negligence, that the treatment has to be different because of previous surgeries or medications, that the susceptibility to infection is different, a cough would be checked in case it was heart or lung related, that some chemo can result in different cancers such as myeloma or tumours or heart/lung/liver damage issues, etc, etc.

And some people (not many, but some) would go on holiday with the intention of getting 'the best' treatment because they suspected there was a recurrence and they wanted it to be covered under holiday insurance (as they wouldn't be able to afford to fly to the US and get the treatment any other way) and would present to the ED with a fall/headache/bump on the head knowing that extensive investigations would result, denying any previous history and it would come out after the Insurance Company had agreed to cover bills.

The specialist companies are really the only option for people who are high risk of making a claim or the potential claim being significant.

Poissonpoison · 01/12/2019 13:25

I use MIA, the issue being that by excluding cancer it completely invalidates any claim because even a broken bone could be blamed on previous cancer.

Skap · 01/12/2019 13:28

Interested in this because I have a long list of pre-existing conditions and some of them whcih are very stable bump up the premium. Last year I paid around £300.
Obviously you still need medical cover for unexpected medical emergencies and the Nationwide one was all or nothing.
Ideally I would exclude my Rheumatoid arthritis for example which is totally stable, but other conditions I would want to include.
Will check out that City Bond Insurer next time I travel.

mencken · 01/12/2019 14:25

just checked the update - great news and I understand. May there be no need for any insurance, enjoy your holiday!

Skap · 01/12/2019 14:42

@MitziK your comment about excluding certain illnesses was exactly what I was told. So, for example, if you fail to include arthritis and you break your leg they could say it was related and you are left without cover.
Which specialist companies would you recommend? When you look at reviews of companies like All Clear who specialise in pre-existing conditions, the reviews are all about how easy and pleasant the process of purchasing the cover was. Hmm Hardly ever about the process of making a claim should the need arise.

MitziK · 01/12/2019 15:46

I'm well out of the loop now as I stopped working in the Industry some time ago, but we always used to direct people if they asked after a claim (or when I helped out in Brokerage in the slack season - in between handling the complaints and continued invoices still arriving three years after treatment) to Citibond policies, who seem to still be in existence, going by other posts here.

ElphabaFlies · 01/12/2019 15:53

Others have said, but I think it's pointless excluding stuff - you're in such a risky situation.

World First are who we use for two complicated multi chronic conditions + cancer people plus kids.

theunknownknown · 01/12/2019 17:34

OP, glad you got it sorted but you are wrong about Nationwide's FlexPlus account.
Travel Insurance is still most definitely available as part of the package.
www.nationwide.co.uk/products/current-accounts/flexplus/features-and-benefits

Wigglewagglee · 01/12/2019 17:46

Thanks for this post. I have an absolute headache with DH

We got a quote from Avanti (sister staysure) where he disclosed all his (many) pre-existing medical history. He then requested no coverage for them
He couldn't pick or choose which ones though, it was all or nothing.

From my understanding Avanti said that any claims relating to the disclosed history wouldn't be covered
But normal features would still be covered (like repatriation etc)

The problem I have with this is because they state that an illness linked to....

So for example
I have osteopenia (precursor of osteoporosis). My bones aren't brittle YET
However I have to declare it to be covered for broken bones.

If I requested to not be covered and I fell down a flight of stairs and broke a bone - even if totally unrelated Avanti would then say the break was because of the osteopenia and wouldn't cover me.

Insurance companies have you by the short and curlies

I went to Poland last year, couldn't get travel insurance because I had a biopsy on my tongue. That was caused by me chewing it . Totally nothing wrong but because I didn't have the results when I went they refused to insure ne