Katie Price

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To feel sorry for Katie Price?

Does Dwight York pay anything to Harvey?

Apparently never paid a penny?

A sad story all round, but most of all for her children. They didn't ask for any of this.

I do think she has massive mental health issues.

People keep claiming "mental health issues," but what exactly do you mean?
Personally, I think there's nothing there that can't be explained by a massive ego, an over-inflated sense of entitlement and a coke habit.

I don’t know her, but whilst I don’t agree with how she’s made her money in some instances, I think she comes across just very honest, straightforward and no nonsense. I like how she presents herself in that respect.

And how she is with Harvey is fantastic, that kid is clearly adored.

She’s been taken for a mug by a lot of her boyfriends and husbands.

She’s had a lot to deal with in life. Wasn’t she raped when young, too? More than most. Proves money doesn’t buy you happiness.

Her kids will be fine, they’ve grown up in a showbiz world and will have adapted, and they have a seemingly sensible dad still on the scene, plus a couple of devoted stepdads. There’s a lot of love going around for those kids, they aren’t lacking. Katie has done a great job in that respect.

I like her and would say so if I ever passed her in the street.

I see it differently as I see the alleged coke use, and the seeking of male validation as symptoms that she’s suffered a lot of trauma and is perpetually self medicating and failing. She’s very susceptible to predatory people, spiritualists, media vultures, surgeons, diet experts... just anyone that promises big change. I’m sceptical of her Priory stays, that must cost a fucking fortune and seem to help her in NO WAY whatsoever. I mean who regulates that place?
I don’t think she’s an amazing business woman . But I think she’s extremely hard working and resilient. I think she has a good sense of humour.. I love seeing how she has a good old laugh with her mum, who also seems a nice person.
Kieran is hardly a Saint is he, shagging her mate behind her back while she was paying for him to live the high life?!!!
She has a potential far greater than the men that have bled her dry, but probably needs proper, extensive therapy to harness it.
Anyway I maintain. I like her.

I do feel sorry for her, it’s not a life most would want
And she’s made some terrible sessions and acted very irresponsibly

But she’s been cheated on, had a child, well adult child that has huge special needs
A mum she’s close to but that has a terminal illness
Even her friends have cheated on her

But she has sold her life to the devil selling everything to the press and tv and books

And it’s been a constant downward spiral
Of drink driving bans drunk driving
Videos on taking drugs
Rehab

Tbh I thjnk she’s very depressed and needs proper professional help

If she never became a celeb her life would have been much better

I wish her well
I hope she can now get sorted for once and all and start a fresh
And perhaps consider moving out of the public eye

Good luck to you Katie

Also it’s a big cycle.
A woman makes her money doing something she’s vilified for in the public eye.
Man gets with her. Doesn’t mind while he’s on the gravy train. She’s nice. She’s misunderstood. He wants her to tell everyone she’s changed . She appears in photoshoots baking bread and pumpkin pie. Makes loads of babies.
Relationship breaks down.

Man joins everyone else in casting his ex as a psycho, a drug taker, unhinged... sells stories to press, paints himself as an angel...
And so it continues.

Surely addiction itself is a mental health problem?
(Drug addiction, addiction to plastic surgery, possibly alcohol issues)

@CallmeAngelina really? You don’t think addiction is a mental health issue? And constant surgery. She has had all manner of vile things said about her disabled son, that’s got to take a toll. She’s had a number of failed relationships and I think she comes across as quite depressed. You can have a massive ego and have mental health issues, they’re not mutually exclusive!

This was always going to happen, she lacks the skills to be able to plan ahead for the future. Her behaviour has cost her public support and her job on Loose Women. People can say she has been used by men but there comes a point when you have to wise up and protect yourself. That never happened. Her parents always seemed to tolerate her behaviour and roll their eyes. No one ever seemed to risk upsetting her by being honest about her terrible choices. No one ever told her she can't sing and will never be a pop star. Maybe now the money has stopped rolling in they might be prepared to spell it out to her but it's probably too late. Vain and stupid is never a good combination.

There’s a lot of love going around for those kids, they aren’t lacking. Katie has done a great job in that respect.
How does she deserve the credit for the love around those kids (and I'm mainly talking J& P)? Much of it comes from Peter's side, with his large, close-knit Greek/Cypriot/Australian clan. Apart from Katie's mum, who is there on her side? A brother who she appears to be low/no-contact with, and a sister who also seems (on the admittedly limited TV footage seen) as spoilt and demanding as Katie herself. I've certainly never seen her interacting with any of the kids.

Man joins everyone else in casting his ex as a psycho, a drug taker, unhinged
Perhaps that's because he knows her better than any of the rest of us?

sells stories to press, Evidence? Most of what I've seen is him refusing point-blank to discuss her.

paints himself as an angel
I disagree. He actually is quite self-deprecating. He's said virtually nothing about her in the last however many years. If people want to draw their own conclusions about the vast difference in the way they're leading their lives, then that's up to them.

I see it differently as I see the alleged coke use, and the seeking of male validation as symptoms that she’s suffered a lot of trauma and is perpetually self medicating

Self-medicating, my arse!

And a massive number of young (and not-so-young) people take coke nowadays. They can't all legitimately claim MH issues. They do it because it's trendy, feels good and they have (initially at least) sufficient disposable income to fund it. Then, down the line (no pun intended), they realise they've got a problem. That's when the excuses start coming out.

Apparently never paid a penny?

off true that’s unforgivable. That child will need care for his entire life. They very least his father could do is help pay for it!

People keep claiming "mental health issues," but what exactly do you mean?

Incredibly low self esteem
Depression
Addiction
Body dysmorphia

For starters

Probably some others. I don’t pay attention to KP. The above is just what is glaringly obvious to anyone with access to TV.

It’s the way abuse cycles work, and those examples that you gave above @CallmeAngelina annoy me.
There is a common situation which happens in real life and it goes like this.
A young girl, generally from a ‘broken’ home, or from a background with no financial stability, or no support, lives a ‘wild child’ existence.
Nobody cares enough to wonder where she is, who she’s with. She falls into the arms of a predatory individual (man) who likes her youth and her compliance but doesn’t like her sexual history. He probably can’t get anyone his own age because he’s violent/ abusive/ a sex predator.
But he pays for things. At a price.
At first everyone thinks he is a hero. He saved this girl from going down the wrong path, he saved her from a life of taking drugs and fucking random men. She has a nice home to show for it.
But behind closed doors he makes her PAY.
She pays by being told nobody else would ever have her because she’s damaged goods. Because she’s a dirty little slapper. She pays by having a man that cheats/ disrespects her/ limits her access to finances.
But still he’s given her loads of kids to make her look like mother Mary to the outside world. As soon as she’s encumbered he goes right off her. He really only likes the part where HE’S the hero.
If she’s lucky enough to escape, nearly always with huge financial burdens and shattered self esteem, she can guarantee a ruined reputation too.
This is not KPs situation. But your ignorance speaks volumes on this thread. And this is how major abuse happens. Things like care home scandals. Things like Rochdale.
Being born lucky enough to come from a big nice family does NOT make you a better person.
I’ll never believe a mans description of his ex either.

She's 'below the veil' that's for sure.

I think the problem is she's never really had any catalyst for self-reflection or personal growth - at least nothing I'm aware of. She seems destined to go on like this until she's old.

@Meltedicicle I remember that interview and thinking she had no grasp on the situation then and that was before it got worse.

Much as l like Peter these days I can't help thinking she was convenient to his career. She should have wises up after she split with Peter but she has too much self destruct about her.

@CallmeAngelina

I disagree. He actually is quite self-deprecating. He's said virtually nothing about her in the last however many years

You’re right, I think. He seems like a decent guy.

What does “below the veil” mean? Ive never heard it before.

I know she's made massive mistakes and I hope she can get back on track for her families sake . I should imagine She's not a very likeable character but i cannot but help admire her pluck! She keeps coming back, looking her best ( may not be to everyone's taste ) and looks the world in the eye. Come on how many of us could do that after all the things she's been through- self inflicted or not . She's not falling into a heap feeling sorry for herself as i probably would.

It means she hasn't really learned from her mistakes or learned to respect and love herself @IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory

What happened to those two male hairdressers that were her best mates?

Thanks ruffle, agree with that.

Footballmumto3: "This is not KPs situation."

Exactly. So, your point...?