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Working for the NHS

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eggandtoasty · 25/11/2019 19:41

I'm applying for jobs in the NHS and wondering how it is - obviously it varies from job to job/area to area but I'm just curious.

Do you enjoy working for the NHS? What's your role?

TIA

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lljkk · 25/11/2019 20:00

clinical or admin role?

eggandtoasty · 25/11/2019 20:06

Clinical

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nocoolnamesleft · 25/11/2019 20:09

Absolutely fantastic and totally fucking awful. Sometimes within minutes of each other.

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PeopleWhoRun · 25/11/2019 20:18

The best and worst thing you will ever do.

Unappreciated, underpaid, overworked. Lucky to get a break. Exhausting. Workplace politics AVOID AT ALL COST.

Part of a team, all in it together, you'll find several real friends along the way. A few fake ones too. More often than not, the patients are so worth it.

And once you've been in the NHS, nothing else quite compares.

Think carefully, good luck

cushioncovers · 25/11/2019 20:30

It's a roller coaster of emotions. I've absolutely loved it usually because of the great bunch of people I've worked with and I've absolutely hated it and cried my eyes out. But overall I love it.

Kaykay066 · 25/11/2019 20:33

Love it and hate it

wonkytonkwoman · 25/11/2019 20:35

It drives me mad and keeps me sane.

Dogsaresomucheasier · 25/11/2019 20:35

Run! Don’t look back!

Miljea · 25/11/2019 21:06

If you'd asked me this 5 years ago, I would, on balance, maybe say it was 'worth while', but now the cuts are biting, I'd say 'stay away'.

In common with many DGH's, we've 'merged' We now have more Band 8 managers than Band 7 managers.

The 'old guard' are not just leaving, they are walking away from the NHS.

Why?

They are sick of the endless merry go round of middle management. We merged 6 years ago. We are undertaking our fourth 'restructuring' (same people, different titles, same 'professional weaknesses' (aka incompetencies)).

Many of our middle managers have no idea, and don't care- what we do. They do not understand that to them, (being, say, pathology managers); because an MRI scanner looks a bit like a CT scanner, those staff become interchangeable (Them: 'Flexible'; us: 'Jack of All Trades'). They make us take on any applicant for a job, from wherever, with whatever dodgy, purchased qualification- then castigate us all for 'falling standards'. Some of the work and practice I've seen over the past 5 years is shocking.

They think that cos Jeremy (C)Hunt says so, The World works 24/7, now, so people aged 55 who haven't done night shift in 10 or so years should be coerced back onto it.

Twelve hour shifts are 'the norm'; however 13+ hour child minding facility isn't.

The equipment is often older than some of the staff.

Agency (on twice your wage) will come and go, but you will be held accountable for their failings. ( recent missive to staff: "C'mon, 'team'! Let's all Pull Together! We need to recognise that many of our agency are barely qualified and inexperienced. Let's put in that bit extra for them....!"- or, let's not hire someone, at £36ph who can't do the job?)

I am literally counting the months. Every single day brings some new micro-aggression from management to the shop floor staff.

Managers whose only, single care is to stay on the right side of a breach. Whatever the human cost to their, evidently wholly replaceable staff. (Allegedly). That is all they care about. An endless fudging and obfuscation. Hide, hide, hide the reality that the services are on their knees.

Targets.

fairgame84 · 25/11/2019 21:10

I'm a nurse, I love my job but hate working for the nhs.
Our ward is unsafely staffed, management brush all issues under the carpet.
I regularly end up staying late and dont get my unpaid breaks.
I've been nursing for 10 years and it has gradually got worse and worse.
If you can do your job in the community or in private practice then I would do that over an nhs hospital. I found that things were better in the community but it probably varies by Trust.

fairgame84 · 25/11/2019 21:14

C'mon, 'team'! Let's all Pull Together!

I don't think our Matron had any idea how much of a wankstain she looked when she popped that kind of message on the group chat on Saturday as she was on her way to the cinema while we had 2 members of staff to 27 patients.

Doyouthinktheysaurus · 25/11/2019 21:22

Definitely love and hate.

Love the work, hands on clinical stuff but so much is box ticking, paperwork, staring at a computer screen.

Justifying why we can't just discharge unwell people, just to bring in more who within a couple of weeks we'll be having the same conversation about. It's tedious and working with older people, sometimes downright scary.

And you can guarantee if any discharge fails and someone suffers serious injury or death, the managers doing all the pushing will be the ones questioning why the patient was allowed to be discharged.

I've been qualified 18 years and I've had enough.

eggandtoasty · 25/11/2019 21:22

Oh god 😭 thinking I should stay away

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drinkingwineoutofamug · 25/11/2019 21:27

I've worked for the nhs for 15 years. I started off bank , then various contracts before (thank you Teresa may) I started my trainee associate nurse course.
I have made life long friends. We have laughed and cried together . I wouldn't change it for the world.
The nhs does get a bad press but I love it

PeopleWhoRun · 25/11/2019 21:28

I can hand on heart say if I knew what I did now...I wouldn't be joining.

Your mental health will take a battering. I have read all the previous posts and completely agree.

Need I say morale is low and has been for years.

Miljea · 25/11/2019 21:37

My spine is taking a hammering. Three man patslides (lateral transfers) have just been 'endorsed' in my Trust 'as long as the staff have dynamically risk assessed the conditions'.

OK, let's risk assess this, chaps. There are 3 of us. The patient is 18 stone. We are running at least 45 minutes late. The managers go home at 5pm. We allegedly finish at 8. Except we never do.

What do we do? Wait genuinely 15 minutes (half of the next appointment) to find a fourth person? Or Just. Do. It.

Hmm.

Datix: "Back injured due to undermanned lateral transfer".

Managerial response: "Always ensure you have sufficient staff to undertake lateral transfers safely".

Travellinglass · 25/11/2019 21:52

We do it because we care - not for the thanks or the big pay check (as you’ll be waiting a long way for either) !

I like working for the NHS - but there really isn’t any perks. We pay for our tea,coffee,our offices our freezing,we are overworked and understaffed. Then you get a private company and they are giving all the perks of the day,flexi,tea,coffee,bonus’,meals out,etc etc . If we have pens in the office it’s a good day. My sister works for the nhs too in a different part of the country - doesn’t sound any better there!

Although we have both made good friends and when we talk about what else we could work as we can’t think of a single thing!

SalemShadow · 25/11/2019 23:32

It is rife with bullying. I speak from experience and my friends going through it at the moment. My friend has just gone on medication because of it

Miljea · 26/11/2019 08:11

I work with a HCP who was assaulted at work (pens and clipboard hurled at her). She told the assailant to 'Go away' in no uncertain terms and stopped this person re-entering the space by barring her way.

The HCP is now being told to write an apology to the assailant. Because the managers do not support or care about their staff.

I wouldn't willingly walk into a NHS job in 2019.

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