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Ok, Boomer

207 replies

chomalungma · 23/11/2019 23:06

I have had to repeatedly tell DS that I am not a boomer. His Grandad is though.

I am with him though. He went through a whole litany of the issues facing his generation and what the older generation have benefited from.

He seems to have got some of the memes from 'Insta'.

Anyone else got a child who uses this phrase?

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ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 08:33

Tbf, I can't feel too mad at people using "okay, boomer" due to the shit I had (and still have to take) to take as a millennial. Spent most of my teens and 20s being completely with my opinions and views being completely disregarded and referred to as a snowflake for being upset about it.

I'm sorry you had that experience. I can't say I've experienced the same as an older Millennial personally. I haven't heard anyone say snowflake in real life and like Millennials I've personally only really seen it really used online in the past few years. The first place I saw it used was on Etiquette Hell and it was generally used to describe people of any age who were terrible customers or guests, after that I didn't see it around much until the past few years.

ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 08:37

Obama isnt a boomer,

He would be considered a Boomer as he was born in 1961. 1946-1964 seems to be the general consensus for Boomers.

TravellingSpoon · 24/11/2019 08:39

Both myself and DS are millennial, so we cant insult each other.

Biancadelrioisback · 24/11/2019 08:41

Clara
My view is clouded my having a shithouse of a manager who was very vocal that millennials (especially women) shouldn't be managers as we are a bunch of snowflakes and didnt understand proper hard work. He thought we were too emotional and therefore couldn't manage other team members. He hired my department a supervisor who was a much older gentleman to keep an eye on me (the manager of the department) and made my life hell.
Tbh, I don't think my experience is unique.

ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 08:44

Tbh, I don't think my experience is unique

I doubt it's common either The dick of a manager absolutely, but the rest less so. Ageism has always existed of course but personally speaking not once in my 20s did I hear anyone say Millennial, or snowflake or even think about what generation I was in. I'm 35. Besides if ageism is wrong. I don't see why it's ok to throw it back at Boomers, and again I see far, far more vitriol from Millennials.

SpiderCharlotte · 24/11/2019 08:45

@ClaraThePigeon I totally agree. I don't remember there being such a divide when I was younger.

RolytheRhino · 24/11/2019 08:50

Isn't a boomer a kangaroo?

ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 08:57

I totally agree. I don't remember there being such a divide when I was younger

Definitely not. Beyond the age old teenager vs parents/teachers divide about the adults not understanding them or liking their clothing or music I don't recall any real division, and we were all better off for that,

TheHumansAreDefinitelyDead · 24/11/2019 09:00

Clara, how old are you?

It's just that I remember the "Generation Gap" being a huge thing in the the 80s (am 48)

Velveteenfruitbowl · 24/11/2019 09:02

The ok boomer is a reaction to a vocal majority of boomers who put their hands up and cry ‘not me’ when attempting to discuss all the things that generation have fucked up. They’re not the only ones who have fucked up but they’re the only ones who refuse to discuss their failures and continue to exacerbate them busy bleeding taxpayers dry over their own failure to plan for their very very long retirement properly. How else are you supposed to respond to people who refuse to have an objective discussion.

ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 09:03

I'm 35. I'm sure it has been an issue at other times. Age divides aren't new and I know the time around the Vietnam war caused a huge divide, particularly in the US but thankfully when I was in my teens and 20s I really don't feel that it was a big thing. I'm very grateful for that.

IvinghoeBeacon · 24/11/2019 09:04

Tbh Clara I’m not sure your posts are helping to minimise any sort of division

damnthatanxiety · 24/11/2019 09:06

Boomers have spent the last decade deriding Millennials for being 'snowflakes' 'too easily offended' and 'too PC'. Now they are all freaking butt hurt about being called a 'Boomer'. Couldn't make this shit up.

ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 09:07

How else are you supposed to respond to people who refuse to have an objective discussion.

That's a joke considering how it's used to do exactly that. Avoid an objective discussion. I see it constantly, call someone Boomer and suddenly you can ignore everything they say, no matter how valid their point. Likewise with the T word. Someone believes that humans can't change sex and they have concerns about the safety and dignity of women. Just call them a T--F and now t's ok to threaten them with violence, ignore everything they have to say and even try to get them fired.

ClaraThePigeon · 24/11/2019 09:09

Tbh Clara I’m not sure your posts are helping to minimise any sort of division

So I should shut up then? Sorry I didn't know that I was here to organise world peace. Someone really should have told me. I'd have brought lunch.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 24/11/2019 09:09

How else are you supposed to respond to people who refuse to have an objective discussion

Indeed. Much like the people who are using "ok, boomer" in every discussion they have, even in response to carefully worded and sensible points.

What worthwhile discussion can be had with shouts of snowflake from one side and boomer from the other?

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 24/11/2019 09:11

@ClaraThePigeon

Please don't shut up. I think you're making a lot of sense. But that's how it is now. "Discussion is unhelpful if it's something I don't want to hear!"

FOJeremy · 24/11/2019 09:12

I’m generation X. I hate the phrase. Typical of millenials and their ‘woe is me’ attitude.

AutumnRose1 · 24/11/2019 09:14

I hate term snowflake as well

I guess overall, being told “you think this because of the identity box I’ve decided to put you in” is mad.

AJPTaylor · 24/11/2019 09:16

I think a more positive attitude is that we are all here together now and have equal responsibility to move ahead.
I was born in 1968 And in my teens spent my time protesting against nuclear weapons. But I did it with people of all generations. Did I blame a generation for it? No.

reginafelangee · 24/11/2019 09:19

Ageism is the last widely accepted prejudice.

How would you react if he was being racist or sexist? The

cherryblossomgin · 24/11/2019 09:26

Don't react, it's just a silly over used meme. Or you could remind him that when people start using memes IRL it's dead and stops being relevant.

doublebarrellednurse · 24/11/2019 09:36

I'm surprised how many people on these threads aren't aware of what generation they belong too let alone other people, the breakdown varies but is largely agreed as (and some overlap)

THE GREATEST GENERATION
Born between 1901-1926
Age 93+ (in 2019)

THE SILENT GENERATION
Born between 1927 and 1945
Age 74-92 (in 2019)

THE BABY BOOMERS
Born between 1946 and 1964
Age 55-73 (in 2019)

GEN X
Born between 1965 and 1980
Age 39-54 (in 2019)

XENNIALS (NEWER TERM)
Born between 1977 and 1983
Have the Gen X Cynicism & the Millennial Optimism

GEN Y OR THE MILLENNIALS
Born between 1981 and 2000
Age 19-38 (in 2019)

CENTENNIALS – NEWER TERM
Born between 1995 and 2008
age 10-23 (in 2019)

GEN Z, POST-MILLENNIALS OR IGEN
Born between 2001 and 2019
age 1-18 (in 2019)

chomalungma · 24/11/2019 09:41

Boomers have spent the last decade deriding Millennials for being 'snowflakes' 'too easily offended' and 'too PC'. Now they are all freaking butt hurt about being called a 'Boomer'. Couldn't make this shit up

It's people who call others 'snowflakes' for getting offended who are getting offended at this term. Which is quite ironic.

But that said, it's good to tell young people what the 'boomer' generation did for people's rights and for changing the world.

Then again, most of the wealth in this country is held by the older generation, and you can see how that can seem unfair to a generation locked out of affordable housing, having to do many jobs, having to rely on the gig economy - and seeing the 'boomer' generation being much more likely to vote for parties such as the Conservative party and voting for Brexit which doesn't help the younger generation.

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doublebarrellednurse · 24/11/2019 09:45

I’m generation X. I hate the phrase. Typical of millenials and their ‘woe is me’ attitude.

This is so ironic really given that it's a decade of this attitudes towards millennials which has led to them creating the meme.

Millennials, I feel, have spent a long time listening to how their priorities are wrong (of course it's avocados which mean they can't afford to buy property!) and that's why they struggle glossing over the fact that the Boomer generation literally had free education, affordable housing in abundance and safe jobs, which led to them buying multiple houses and are now the ones charging extortionate rents and demanding a college education for entry level jobs.

Is it constructive? No. It's a way to blow off steam at the constant lack of awareness that the generation that's gone before them has shown when asserting that it was their "can do" attitude that got them forwards and that they weren't supported by national economic good fortune.

If my kid called me it I'd laugh in his face and direct him at his grandfather who would tell him that he's probably right. But then his grandparents wouldn't call me a snowflake for thinking the facts indicate that things economically were easier for them.

But you know. It's just a woe is me attitude.