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How come so quick (squatter today jailed for public order offence yesterday)?

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Aridane · 11/11/2019 18:37

So today the squatter who threw a firework into the crowd during a Remembrance Sunday commemoration was jailed for 16 weeks.

No problem with the sentence - but how on earth did this go,through the courts so quickly?

I know there were special sittings of the courts in the evenings and weekends when we had the riots / lootingS a number of years ago - but that was them a special case to quell mass disorder.

So how come this was dealt with Ina matter of hours? I didn't know this was even possible

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sashh · 12/11/2019 08:01

I’d not feel sorry for someone with 21 precious convictions. Each one of which hurts someone else.

Not necessarily.

A friend's daughter has a drug habit, she has been known to go into a shop, take something from a shelf and stand outside waiting to be taken back in by shop security, it's a quick way to rehab.

Aridane · 12/11/2019 08:09

*Magistrates court, not crown.

  • Pled guilty immediately.*

What would delay things in that situation?

Just really the fact that the offence was on a Sunday and the arrest, charge, plea, conviction, sentence and imprisonment took place the following day. Not sure even Amazon Prime could match that!

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Orangepancakes · 12/11/2019 08:35

Recalled to prison or more likely remanded to court.

Basically a scumbag with lots of previous convictions and likely to reoffend so doesn't get bail.

Orangepancakes · 12/11/2019 08:49

Lots of offenders who regularly offend/reoffend or don't turn up to court are remanded to court instead of being bailed. They are often the 'career criminals'. Basically they can't be trusted to turn up to court or they're likely to reoffend in the mean time.

So after they have been arrested, they are held in a police cell (fed and watered, tea/coffee, showers, books etc.) until being put before the next court session. Usually that afternoon (if arrested early in the morning) or the following morning. Unless on a weekend, when it will be Monday morning when the next court session is held.

CockleburIck · 12/11/2019 08:53

Amazon Prime justice. I like that! Grin

Velveteenfruitbowl · 12/11/2019 08:58

It’s great that it was so quick, you’d wish every trial could be heard so quickly but I suppose in this instance is was so straight forward there was no reason for delay whereas in other cases a space needs to be found in the crown court/cps need time.

Patroclus · 13/11/2019 11:39

terrified of the tabloid reaction, I should think.

LochJessMonster · 13/11/2019 12:17

He didn't just disturb a remembrance service, it was during the 2 minutes silence! Disgusting and dangerous.

JoanBonJovi · 13/11/2019 21:17

@sashh you don’t get to Rehab this way. Plus shoplifting not victimless

JoanBonJovi · 13/11/2019 21:17

Plus. It wasn’t a trial. Was a guilty plea sentencing

JoanBonJovi · 13/11/2019 21:18

@Aridane would have been held overnight and presented the next day Not at all unusual.

FrenchFancie · 14/11/2019 07:17

This is how magistrates court stuff works if you plead guilty - it’s not really a trial, as such, just sentencing. There’s no need for evidence or complicated legal arguments, as he has admitted it. This is how quickly most mags Court stuff chiens over tbh.

Aridane · 14/11/2019 07:20

@JoanBonJovi - I think what is surprising me is that the typical time from committing an offence to disposal of the matter in a Magistrates Court is c.100 days. I think I read that a number of years ago but memory is dusty and quite probably flawed!

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Aridane · 14/11/2019 07:21

(I did comment above that it was a guilty plea - so agree that helps with speed of process)

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Aridane · 14/11/2019 07:22

@Patroclus - I did wonder if it was that

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