Auditory Hearing Test 7 year old, how do I get one??!!

[Auditoryhearing]

Dd falling behind at school, poor reading skills, spelling, writing.

School not said or done anything so I found a tutor who has only seen her this half term. She thinks there 'could' be auditory Hearing issue.
So I called doctor to ask for a test and he said he didn't know how too and it might come from the school?

you could call evelina children's unit in london for advice (020 7188 7188), or the NDCS helpline (0808 800 8880) if they can't help. all the best x

doctor should refer you to a hearing clinic at the hospital

Your doctor should be able to refer you for a straightforward hearing test.

However, if it is suspected that there is an auditory processing issue rather than an actual hearing issue, that may well have a different pathway for referral in your area. In ours I believe (one of) the pathway is via a community paediatrian. That is how my son's auditory processing came to be assessed. (He had plenty of normal hearing tests before which were different).

I would ask NDCS for advice but your GP should be able to do the referral. It is really difficult to get through over the phone to the Evelina (dd was under audiology there).

In our surgery I made an appointment with the nurse and she referred us on.

It's just a standard hearing test.

My DD has Johansen Therapy for her auditory processing issues in Windsor, has near perfect hearing now

Incidentally she kept on passing her NHS hearing tests (she was 2 and 3) even though she was actually near hearing impaired at the high frequencies she had severe speech delay which was a huge red flag that there was something wrong!

Ransom how did you get this therapy please. Dd had very 'mild' speech delay when little. We had a few months group speech therapy.

Also what is Johnson therapy please.

@randonmess apologies for the second post to you .

I have literally only today even heard of this issue, auditory processing and from quick research it seems like specialist auditory tests, which are more to do with brain function than actual 'hearing' through ear mechanism.
Or something like that, so specialist audiologist test is needed.

I've just googled 'john done therapy' Windsor and nothing came up.

Google Johansen Sound Therapy lots of places in the UK with information.

The practitioner I used is Bob Allen, Access Potential - his clinic also does retained reflexes therapy not just Johansen.

My DD was diagnosed unusually young only because I was taking an older sibling to see Bob about something else and he he commented how she talked like a hearing impaired person (she did) so he did the hearing test and gave us a sound disc "to try" and the improvement in her hearing test results in 6 weeks were remarkable.

I have ADP too but not as severely as DD, lots of sound frequencies I struggle with and if there is background noise etc.

What is amazing is that our brains is so elastic it can be "manipulated" into "fixing" itself.

🙏🙏 Thank you random.
I've been so worried about her, it might not even be this. I'll Google Bob thank you.

My DS saw Dr Grounds in the MultiSensory Training Clinic in Colchester, she diagnosed his auditory processing disorder. This used to be available on the NHS, but this is no longer the case.

DS finds spelling a real issue as he can’t always hear the sounds in a word and can’t keep them in order to put them into a word. He had glue ear as a young child, which can cause problems with auditory processing later.

Had DD had a physical hearing impairment rather than auditory one than the Johansen Therapy wouldn't have improved her hearing.

Her hearing curve was completely back to front, too sensitive to low frequencies and very very poor in the high frequencies. It also changed her from being completely ambidextrous to having a dominant hand - who knew being ambidextrous was actually a sign that your brain had got a bit "stuck" at the end of babyhood!

Random is it hideously expensive... How old was your dd when diagnosed?. Had her school dome anything

She was 3.5, £120 per test and customised disc - think 4 or 5 discs. 6 to 8 weeks between each visit. If it isn't working or wouldn't help Bob would tell you. Most of that cost is because of customised discs that are made. If you want to be at at prices look at bone conductor therapy... you have to buy specialist equipment!!!

She started school at just 4 on the SEN register but was off it by the end of reception because by then her hearing and speech was sorted and she had caught up. She had a lot of words to relearn. Turns out pre-school staff hadn't understood her and the teacher struggled until her speech improved.

There is a facebook group called APD support UK - you will get very knowledgeable support and advice on there. Unfortunately, there are very few places to get a diagnosis. GOSH will only take referrals from inside the M25 for instance.

@Auditoryhearing from the group's Facebook page

"Schools do not refer for APD testing or carry it out. APD is a medical condition of neurological origin. Only a specialist audiologist is qualified to diagnose APD. Neither SALTs, Educational Psychologists nor any other professional is qualified to diagnose it (no matter what they might tell you). Without full testing by an appropriate specialist your child does NOT have a valid diagnosis."

When I had my "normal" hearing test (before I had DD) I was told by them that my issues were auditory processing 🤷🏽‍♀️ this was 20 years ago though!

Randomly that's v young to be on sen register. You must have good school.
120 isn't too bad.

Flea thank you that's v helpful

The teacher (who was the School SENCO, won teacher of the year SE) was very experienced and couldn't understand what she was saying, tbf we struggled and she is #4 and an older one had speech delay for glue ear so We knew all the tricks.

They don't need a diagnosis to be on the SEN register, the school put them on and write them an IEP.

It really was chance that she got treatment so young as it's not usually picked up until 7 upwards. Even Bob said it wasn't until her hearing improved with that first standardised disc that he knew she didn't have a physical hearing issue rather than an APD one.

My only anger is at the NHS team that kept telling me DD "wasn't in the mood" to play the hearing test games, erm no she couldn't f*cking hear a thing. Even the speech therapist struggled to understand her and in the 10 months between her speech assessments (pre treatment) her speech didn't improve at all - went home and cried after that trip!

When dd 7 was in reception the school did hearing tests, they said something was up in her right ear, I thought it was crap as she can hear us across the house, anyway they sent us to a small local hospital where she had several more appointments and they wernt happy and we’ve been referred to the big hospital to see consultants. I wouldn’t have bothered had the school not picked it up as I feel like she can hear just fine. Maybe ask the school to help?

Ransom that's a heart warming story, bless her!
Amazingly I live near Windsor and I'm hoping Bob can help us too.

The school have done very little.