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Buying my first smart phone - what do I need to know?

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M3lon · 26/10/2019 19:43

I've previously owned three 'dumb' phones, all on PAYG. I've never had a smart phone, never had a mobile contract and live in fear of the type of shark like shop assistants that seem to circle menancingly in phone shops.

Please help! What do I need to know?

I know I need 'android' but I don't actually know what that means and which phones it covers....

How do I get a phone without signing my life away - or paying over the odds?

Any advice very gratefully received.

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PrettyPurse · 26/10/2019 19:48

I have a samsung s8. Love it.

My first grown up phone was the Samsung s3. I stuck with Samsung as l "know" it now.

What's made you decide android?

PrettyPurse · 26/10/2019 19:49

I haven't upgraded to the newer Samsung as they are ££££ on contract and quite simply ... l don't use all the apps/gadgets on the phone to make it worth it

PrettyPurse · 26/10/2019 19:50

I like Samsung s8 as l can add an SD card for more memory.

The camera is really good.

IfNot · 26/10/2019 19:51

If you can afford it I would buy a cheap android phone and get giff gaff monthly top ups or similar so you are not locked into a contract .
Although, actually, maybe just don't do it.
I am thinking about going back to a brick as I think smart phones ultimately make us all dumber.

thatonesmine · 26/10/2019 19:52

You don't really need a contract for a smart phone y'know, if you're not a heavy phone user PAYG might work out cheaper for you.

PrettyPurse · 26/10/2019 19:54

Have you got children? I am on the same provider as them.... or rather them with me....so we get free calls to each other.

You need to think what you'll use the phone for and where.

I have unlimited texts, 1g data and...hmmm...not sure on calls.

I find the data is enough as l immediately sign in to any free wifi or ask friends for their wifi code when there.

Calls l barely make as l WhatsApp, text or use messenger

PrettyPurse · 26/10/2019 19:55

My boys have the samsung J6. It's quite a basic smartphone and was about £175 new from Samsung online. They then have a sim only contract

Redcrayons · 26/10/2019 19:56

Android = anything that’s not an iPhone

MoobaaMoobaa · 26/10/2019 20:06

Android phones are mainly any phone that's not an IPhone.

you don't have to have an Android phone, I prefer them, but lots of people have IPhones.

You need to get contract that gives you enough data use, try 2 or 4 GB To begin with. you may not use it at first, but once you start MNing everywhere, googling any random thing whilst on the move, and streaming music it starts to add up, also if you get WhatsApp you can make phone calls on your Wi-Fi if you don't have a phone signal.

You don't need the latest most expensive phone out there, have look on some phone websites, for an idea of prices and packages.

we got cheap £60 LGs for DCs first phones on PAYG, did everything they needed.

I like Sony's but currently have Samsung.

BinkySodPlop · 26/10/2019 20:09

Another "buy it outright and find a good sim-only deal" person here. Also GiffGaff, actually! 😃

I guess you need to think about budget, what features you want it for, then start whittling make and model down.

I would look for storage capacity, and whether it could be increased; music, photos, books etc.. take up a lot of space if you want it for "media" type things.

If you want it for gaming, or watching TV and films, go for the biggest screen you can get, with the best definition.

If you want something fairly "standard" that makes calls, sends messages, takes photos, can handle a few apps and the internet, but not at the top end, there's tons of choice. Go for what looks good / fits in your hand and which you can use with ease. A lot of manufacturers sell 1 or 2 year old models very reasonably, and you can also get refurbished / pre-owned, warranteed handsets from lots of reputable places.

Be aware that some older models (3+ years old) may struggle with operating system updates / running multiple new apps, as they take more and more resources.

MoobaaMoobaa · 26/10/2019 20:24

This is a cheap PAYG phone, to get you started, you'll either get use to it and find it perfect for what you do, or you get use to a smart phone and feel confident in getting something that gives you a bit more.

it's £90 for the handset then however much and often you top up. I think £10 is the minimum buy.

www.tesco.com/phones/products/08806087039986

safariboot · 26/10/2019 20:24

A few things to consider.

Nearly all smartphones, except iPhones, run Android. Android versions have a number, and a name that's a sweet treat. The latest is Android 9 "Pie" and before that was 8.1 "Oreo". If a phone comes with an old version of Android that probably means it's an old phone, which means it will have a shorter useful life. Phones tend to stop getting necessary security updates a few years after they're launched, and apps and websites expect faster phones as time goes on too.

If buying outright, IMHO the "sweet spot" is £150-250. Much cheaper than that and the phones become junky, with slow performance and bad screens. More expensive and you get premium performance but the value for money arguably falls away. (Of course it depends how wealthy you are). If you buy the phone outright you can get a SIM-only contract or just use pay-as-you-go, I prefer the latter because it means if I can't afford to top up I don't have to.

If getting a phone on contract, the monthly cost is basically split in two. There's what you're paying for your calls and data, and then there's the cost of the phone itself being spread over the contract term.

Google make the Android system, but then most phone makers tinker with it, some more than others. Samsung make significant changes, but they're so popular they're practically a standard anyway. This only really matters if you switch phones, or someone else is trying to help you (and can't find a setting because your phone has it in a different place).

As with most things I advise reading reviews in a reputable publication or website. Reviews written by people who know what they're talking about. You can't buy a phone solely on specifications. Specs will tell you, for example, that a phone has a 1080p screen but a decent review will tell you whether the screen is actually any good.

safariboot · 26/10/2019 20:36

PS: Couple more things.

For a contract including the phone, the store will do a credit check. If you have no credit history you'll probably be rejected for a high-end phone on contract and you might even be rejected for contracts on cheap or mid-range phones.

For buying the phone outright at least you can order online if you don't want to deal with stores and salespeople. Either from a retailer or in some cases from the phone maker's own website.

You might need a new SIM. If so, your mobile network can transfer your number so you keep the same one. The three main sizes are mini, micro, and nano SIMs and phone manuals should say which one is needed.

DoctorTwo · 26/10/2019 21:01

I have a Nokia 6 which I bought in September 2016. It currently runs Android Oreo 8.1 and has an update to whatever the next name is ready to install, which I will do tomorrow when I'm at the Tescos. The case is a bit battered where I've dropped it but the screen is still perfect. When I replace my phone it will be with another Nokia, possibly the 7.1.

M3lon · 27/10/2019 01:32

Thanks so much for all the advice!

So much to think about - still feeling scared!

It has to be an android because part of what I need it for is to test an app my student is designing. The platform is android and she has an iphone....

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M3lon · 27/10/2019 01:34

safari thanks so much for all that info - I really appreciate it!

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DontCallMeShitley · 27/10/2019 01:05

I have a Wiley Fox phone because I didn't want a huge one, although the newer version is bigger than mine.

I can't help other than to say it seems like a decent phone. Sadly none of these phones come with instructions for the first time user so it is trial and error, or ask someone that knows.

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