Missed miscarriage, but no bleeding anyone experience this?

[Cherrylips87]

Hi guys im new to mumsnet, but ive often read threads an advice on here before.
I went for a scan almost 3 weeks ago now an it was very difficult to do the lady said as i do carry a little bit of extra tissue she said. So it wasnt easy or very clear she said i messured 7 weeks but could see no heartbeat she got someone else in the room an she quickly looked an said yes ill call it. We were then taken to another room to discuss options. Ive chosen to see if things start naturally. Ive had no cramping no bleeding or discharge. I feel like im in limbo ive had 7 calls from the hospital so far to see if i have made my mind up about another option. I feel almost pressured into making a fast choice. I really think that theres a possibility lil one has grown i feel uneasy about going into hospital as they have said they will not recan me.

So sorry you're going through this. My experience was pretty much exactly the same. Baby didn't develop past about 5 weeks, found out on scan at 7 weeks. I preferred a natural mc to any intervention, so waited a further 3+ weeks and nothing happened. A tiny bit of spotting here and there, but I had more bleeding than that in my healthy straightforward pregnancies. It just never happened. Finally by 11 weeks, I decided that I did want intervention because I'd spent 3 weeks waiting for it to happen and not being able to travel for work (did a lot of travel, but was afraid to start mc alone away from home).

I saw a very lovely specialist midwife at the EPU who talked to me about medical and surgical management. I didn't want an operation, but she said that if she was ever in my shoes, she would never opt for the medical management as it can be really traumatic and awful. I decided on surgical. They booked me in for 2 days later. It was as easy as it possibly could be. The day surgery staff were lovely and sensitive and really supportive, and it was all fine. I'm very glad that's the route it all went in the end, if I had to be in that position as it was very easy and I hardly felt any discomfort. (I was pregnant about 6 weeks after the d&c and have a nearly 2 year old now, so all worked out in the end, even though it was awful at the time).

The hospital will need to do 2 scans, at least 1 week apart and will need to be sure that baby is not developing. In my case, they did an analysis of blood flow or something like that via ultrasound, which showed that there was no activity and no further development was possible. If there is any doubt, they will not let you proceed with intervention, so if they are saying no further scans then it's because they are sure. It's hard to come to terms with, but it's much easier when you are no longer stuck in limbo. If you need further reassurance, would you consider a private scan? I had one with mine as well (that was my first scan at 7 weeks) and it was well worth the money to know what was going on.

I'm so sorry you're going through this

I am really surprised by their reaction. When I had a missed miscarriage with no bleeding they wouldn't confirm it until I had had two scans at least a week apart to confirm no growth (and not just I had my dates wrong)

I don't know but I would get a second opinion on the rescan. Can you speak to another hospital or your gp or pals?

It doesn't sound right to me. I had had a private scan due to previous mcs so I knew it was mc as I had seen the heart beat previously. But they were adamant they wouldn't proceed with options until I had had another scan. And they wouldn't take the private scan as proof.

The first thing is to know. Either way. Then you can move forward. I'm so sorry. The limbo was the worst part for me too.

When I read threads like this I am always left worried. 14 years ago i had a missed miscarriage picked up at a scan. There was never a second scan, never any possibility that they were unsure about it. I have a D and C two days later. I was utterly broken hearted about it and have always regretted not pushing for a second scan. The what ifs are dreadful. I wasn't emotionally strong enough on hearing the news to demand more and simply took it as fact.

OP I thought the protocol now was to scan twice to confirm. Can you go to your GP to be rescanned, perhaps taking a copy of any relevant NICE guidelines to back up your point?

I had a missed miscarriage earlier this year. Waited to see if it would pass naturally but at 11.5 weeks nothing at all was happening so I opted for the medical management. It wasn't pleasant but it went as smoothly as it could have. I ended up getting treatment with BPAS in the end for various reasons (didn't have to pay). You could contact them as they were very thorough in making sure the pregnancy wasn't viable and felt much more listened to there than I did with the NHS.

Horrendous experience for me with a missed miscarriage back in the1970s. Bled slightly at 12 weeks, no scans or anything offered. Was just told to wait and see, and that one out of three or four pregnancies failed. No contact from midwife or anyone and was not offered any help. It was like living in limbo, not knowing whether my baby was alive or dead. At 18/19 weeks terrible cramps and bleeding, and was taken to hospital, where doctor removed dead foetus on the ward, no anaesthetic....Then taken to theatre for D&C. Sincerely hope this would not happen now.

Push for a rescan, tell them that you cannot make a decision unless they do. Could your GP possibly make a referral to EPU for an ultrasound?

If you get no joy from either of those then contact PALS who can liaise with them on your behalf as clinic guidelines are that a scan should be repeated after 7 days if a heartbeat cannot be visualised at the first scan

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Sorry you're going through this

I'm really surprised at them not rescanning you. My mmc was picked up at 13+4 the sac was measuring correctly but the embryo was the size of a full stop so it was quite clear to everyone that it wasn't viable but legally they couldn't do anything until after rescanning me a week later (despite me begging to get it over with). Funnily enough my body decided to start bleeding a few days after my scan so held onto the pregnancy for 14 weeks. MMC is one of the cruelest things.

One of the possibilities they gave me was that I had conceived 3 months ago and miscarried but my body absorbed it and this could be a new pregnancy . Of course I knew the chances of this were zero but I did find it quite cruel as if I'd been told this when I was bit less knowledgeable about this stuff I may have believed it and clung onto that false hope. Anyway my point is if they can come up with reasons like that when it's so clearly a miscarriage due to my gestation then it's shocking they are not doing another scan as 7 weeks is still early. I would definitely insist on another scan before agreeing to anything.

I'm currently going through my second miscarriage. I lost my first pregnancy when I started to bleed just before 6 weeks. We tried again straight away and I fell pregnant for the second time in August.

I went for an early scan when I was 7 weeks because I was having left sided pelvic pain. Baby was measuring a week smaller than I'd thought but we saw the heart beat flickering away. It was amazing to see and made me feel so much better about things. They said the pain was just my uterus stretching out.

I was 10 weeks on Tuesday, all seemed to be well. I had strong pregnancy symptoms, still do today. We went for a private scan on Tuesday evening for some reassurance that everything was ok. I had my 12 week scan booked for the 8th November and couldn't wait to get to this milestone so I could relax and tell people.

The scan on Tuesday showed no heart beat and that the baby hadn't grown past 6 weeks. I was devastated. I called the NHS early pregnancy unit yesterday and they said they couldn't scan me until today. They said I've had a missed miscarriage and gave me options to 'manage' my pregnancy. I've opted for a medical intervention and have that booked on Friday but I'm terrified. Has anyone had this done? I've read about it on the miscarriage association website, it sounds like it's going to be painful and upsetting. I'd be grateful to hear of anyone else's experience.

There still a part of me that hopes the private scan was wrong, but I think I'm being silly to believe that as when I get rescanned today it will make it all the more traumatic to lose the baby again. It's horrible thinking my baby is dead inside me. I just don't want to believe it xxx

Thank you to everyone who commented an shared there experience with me. I came away from the internet an social media for a bit to just clear my head an im pleased to say i went for a scan today to check on whats going on beacuase i had not naturally misscarried i wanted one last check before i decided on any treatment. Sadly the ladies doing my scan were not very pleasant towards me, surprisingly there attitude changed when they saw my very wiggling baby on there screen happy healthy an with a strong heart... just wanted to share this with you all

😱 I'm so sorry you had to go through the past couple of weeks of heartbreak! But congratulations on finding your little baby is healthy after all!

Oh my goodness - that's amazing! Thank goodness you had another scan!

Oh my goodness you poor thing. How terrible. But glad for your great news! Please complain. This is one of my big fears. I've had miscarriages that have always, sooner or later, come to their own natural conclusion, but if I was offered a choice of ways to move things along then I think I'd be like you, wanting extra checks. They need to be made aware that if they'd pushed you without offering another check first, they would have ended a healthy pregnancy. They should not be pushing for people to make a decision based on one scan, they should always be scanning twice at least. Well done for standing your ground.

I hope you have a good pregnancy here on in!

Wow, that's brilliant, so pleased for you but imagine if you'd gone along with their wishes...

My second pregnancy (late 1990s) was a MMC; had a scan at 17 weeks & was told baby had died at 14 weeks gestation. Was discouraged from letting nature take its course and was admitted the following day for medical intervention, not surgery.
Tests showed the baby had a chromosomal disorder.

I don't know when the 2 scan rule came into play but thank goodness it did and why were they not going to scan you a second time?

Good Luck OP, I wish you well for the remainder of your pregnancy.

Aww that is amazing congratulations!!! Wish you a happy healthy pregnancy and a beautiful future with your baby