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Help! How to politely tell them I don't want to be friends?!

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NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 09:19

I live in a small place, there's a local group at the village hall. They are all very friendly and have been a massive source of support through some difficult times for us recently so I try to attend as often as possible and we both volunteer in the community through them.

There is a couple that go to this group every week. The wife, like me, is in a wheelchair. For whatever reason the husband seems to think that means we will
all be best of friends cos obviously the cripples are all the fucking same and my wheelchair is an integral part of my personality and dh is obviously just like the other guy because his wife is sick too. Ugh They are nice enough people but not really our cup of tea for a bunch of reasons. They are both about 10y older than us, have several children (children are okay i guess but just not for us! Both on the spectrum and would probably find kids a bit of a struggle) and in the politest way possible I feel very uncomfortable saying this as it seems mean but i think may be relevant we are quite far apart intellectually Blush

The husband is well meaning but irritating, he really is just trying to be friendly (I think he's just lonely, bless him) but its starting to impact my enjoyment of living in this village and I have no idea how to make it stop!

He shows up at my door a couple times a week uninvited which really bothers me, I am a very anxious person and have some serious health issues that are massively impacted by my stress levels and people knocking at the door without warning can trigger all sorts of symptoms. I have mentioned this him and gave him a phone number saying could he please check its okay before he shows up. He's taken to texting and then not opening any reply and still just showing up Confused

A few times in his company he has made comments that I am not comfortable with, I think he thinks he is being funny but it just isn't. Some of the things he has said are quite shocking really, an example (not verbatim) would be along the lines of "Haha when I get calls like that I just be racist down the phone it's well funny" referring to cold callers. I can't tell if he's serious or not, the way he is constantly playing the really unfunny clown leads me to believe he is joking, but have told him in no uncertain terms that we neither find it amusing nor wish to engage with him on the topic. There are so many more of these types of scenario where he is "joking" and on some level I feel like I'm taking offence at the guys lack of intelligence because they way he talks etc lead me to believe he isn't malicious, just stupid Sad I genuinely am unsure if this means I'm supposed to tolerate it on the basis he doesn't know better?

I just don't know what to do. The wife is lovely and has been very kind to me giving me some of her old unused things that I badly needed and couldn't afford. I feel like I should just put up with him because I don't want to upset anyone but both me and dh are starting to dread going to group which is awful as we both really love it here and want to be active in the village.

Advice? FlowersCakeBrew

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Andromache77 · 16/10/2019 09:29

It seems to me that your main issue is with the husband, not so much the wife who you say is lovely, so perhaps you should meet with her for coffee, alone, and tactfully mention your anxiety and the effect that her husband's unpredictable visits have on you. If you like her you could try to foster a relationship with her, but only with her, and outside your or her home to make it more neutral, something like a weekly tea/coffee meet. Maybe present it as a "girls-only" thing (yes, I also hate that word being applied to grown up women but it could work).

HEMammajamma · 16/10/2019 09:36

Whether he is being malicious or stupid, it's not your problem, it's his. You don't have to deal with someone who makes you uncomfortable (for whatever reason) just because they exist. Sure you are thankful to the wife and would remain so (I presume) but that doesn't mean your life should become miserable. I would personally give everything back if it meant not being stressed out and anxious over her husband's unwanted company!

Could you possibly talk to the wife candidly about this, since you say she is lovely and you seem to have a better relationship with her? Perhaps she can then talk to her husband. I don't imagine it being so great afterwards when you meet him elsewhere but atleast that could help with the unwanted visits.

Nofunkingworriesmate · 16/10/2019 09:40

Don’t open the door , ever, he will stop doing it

NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 09:41

I would but both of us need full time carers so I actually can't just meet her for coffee on my own Blush

I'm not 100% sure I would particularly want to either, she's lovely and kind but the only thing we have in common is being disabled. I have very little conversation with her, very basic small talk, which is fine but hardly a basis for an actual friendship. More than happy to interact in passing.

I'm also just a very quiet solitary type, I have plenty "friends" but if I'm honest I don't even tell those people where I live etc as I don't particularly want to have close friendships, I have 2 close friends that live far away who I see sporadically but I like to keep the rest of my human contact to a minimum so I attend this group and volunteer (which doesn't involve much interpersonal stuff) and the rest of the time dh and I are just us.

I just don't know how to handle this tactfully, I don't want to offend anyone but I am just interested in being more than casual acquaintances with these people. Feel like such an awful person for saying that though Blush

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NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 09:45

Nofunking I tried that, he knew we were there though and just shouted through the letter box until we answered Confused I have tried answering the door and telling him I'm busy but he just ignores that and talks at me. This is why I'm posting, I don't want to be rude but I just don't know how to handle it at all. He knows that we are both on the spectrum too but doesn't seem to understand what that means really

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NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 09:46

*just not interested

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HEMammajamma · 16/10/2019 09:52

Wow! He's being rude definitely. It might be time to be rude firm back. If he comes to your door and shouts through the letter box demanding to be let in (wtf!), both you and your husband should open the door and tell him (without letting him speak) that you DO NOT want company and most definitely DO NOT ever want him coming round and knocking on your door without clearly being asked to do so. Then close the door (ignoring whatever he has to say). CFs like these need clear messages after you've tried to polite route. He's taking you both for fools in your own house and it's unacceptable. You're definitely not being awful or unreasonable at all!

HEMammajamma · 16/10/2019 09:54

Since you have a carer, could your carer handle this for you perhaps if it's too much?

Damntheman · 16/10/2019 10:06

The time for polite is well past I'm afraid OP. Now is the time for firm. If he shouts through the letter box then shout back that he needs to go away and stop coming around without an invitation. Is there anyone in the community you can recruit to have a quiet firm third party word on your behalf?

Juells · 16/10/2019 10:11

Since you have a carer, could your carer handle this for you perhaps if it's too much?

Is your husband your carer, OP?

Some people are so thick that even outright rudeness doesn't seem to get through. Next time he texts saying he's coming around, try texting back NO. That will show up on his phone even if he doesn't open the text, won't it? Keep using the word No. I feel for you, having to deal with someone so oblivious. Actually, it's beyond oblivious.

NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 10:17

Yes my husband is my carer. Annoying man is his wifes carer so no chance of asking her to talk to him. I get the impression that everyone locally feels the same and we are just the latest people to move here and he's latched onto us because all he sees is a woman in a wheelchair and a man who looks after her and thinks that's just like him. I am unsure whether to be offended or sad for him that he can't tell the difference.

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Bellringer · 16/10/2019 10:21

'Go away, I don't feel well' works for most situations. Don't open the door, don't engage, it will take a few goes till he gets it. You could say or text 'lovely to see you at activity but I can't see people outside the group (or can't entertain at home)' Be rude if you have to, he is. How are other people dealing with him? Can dh tell him to give it a rest?

Zaphodsotherhead · 16/10/2019 10:28

If others locally feel the same, could you try talking to someone else in the local group about him and explaining that you are having difficulty with him too?

They may be able to take him aside and have a word, or give you whatever tactics worked for them to get rid of him.

He sounds boorish and slightly desperate for company.

BreatheAndFocus · 16/10/2019 10:37

Maybe he’s being obtuse? It looks like you’re going to have to be explicit and spell out that you never want him to visit your house and you like to limit your socialising to outside events.

Text him and politely lay down what you want. Repeat as necessary. Some people are unable to conceive that something that’s fine with them isn’t fine with other people.

ChevalierTialys · 16/10/2019 10:39

Go away, I don't feel well

^^ this.

If he is banging in you door, ignore it. If he starts shouting that he knows you're in (which is unbelievably rude), shout this right back at him.

If it comes to it, tell him you will call the police if he keeps harassing you (you don't have to actually do it).

KatherineJaneway · 16/10/2019 11:12

How to politely tell them I don't want to be friends

You can't. Someone like this just bulldozes away to get whet they want. You'll have to be very blunt.

BreatheAndFocus · 16/10/2019 11:18

If this man is so rude and unaware that he shouts through the letterbox and continues to talk to you even though you’ve said you’re busy, making up a temporary excuse isn’t going to work. You’re busy? He’ll be quick or come back later? You’re ill? He’ll be back tomorrow to see how you are.

Don’t try that. It hasn’t worked. You do need to be direct.

NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 11:28

I guess next time he shows up I'm going to have to be a bit more blunt Blush

You'd think given I am actually autistic usually blunt in general this wouldn't seem like such a hard task but I'm also painfully shy and genuinely want to be nice to everyone.

I guess with some people you can't win Sad

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AutumnRose1 · 16/10/2019 11:42

Tbh I don't think anything matters except that he's harassing you. Tell him to leave you alone.

BlankTimes · 16/10/2019 12:07

You are right, unfortunately some people are so eager to "be helpful" that they overstep the mark and many personal boundaries, so you do need to be blunt.

Is he the sort of man who would listen to a man telling him to sod off rather than a woman?

If so, send a short blunt text from your husband's phone.

We appreciate that you are trying to be friendly, but we don't want anyone to visit us at home from now on. Please respect our privacy.

EileenAlanna · 16/10/2019 12:30

Your DH is your carer so it's time for him to step up & do this bit of the caring too. He should tell this guy that there are many aspects to your serious health issues that mean it's not physically possible for you/him to answer the door never mind entertain unexpected visitors as you're in the middle of/about to start some form of intensive treatment etc. & if the door isn't answered after the first knock/ring then that means it's a really, really bad time & he should leave. Lie as much as you both need to.
Could your DH suggest to the guy a FB group for the village hall if there isn't one already? Maybe he could be "persuaded" to set one up & have contact pretty much restricted to that?

Funnyface1 · 16/10/2019 13:17

I know you've said you don't want to be rude, but I think it's time to start being rude.

You could say you're worried his frequent visits will lead to gossip and you don't want him to come around anymore. Ever.

NotANeuroticApple · 16/10/2019 15:05

Dh has tried to tactfully tell him to piss off before but the guy doesn't take hints, I wonder that he might have a learning difficulty or something just based on some of the things he says and that I used to be a social work disability services coordinator and he doesn't 'get' it.

I'm going to contact the leader of the village community group and see what they suggest and I guess just tell him to piss off next time

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KurriKurri · 16/10/2019 15:29

I wouldn't worry too much about being nice or not offending him - he's over stepping your boundaries and if you offend him hopefully it will achieve the result of making him stay away.
I would be extremely blunt. When he turns up at the hosue I would say ' sorry we prefer not to socilaise outside of the group nights, pleaase don;t turn up at th house.' and repeat until he stops. Don;t engage - say your piece and shut the door even if he is still talking.

I get cross with people like this (thick skinned, can;t take a hint types) because they are making your life miserable, they aren;t the slightest bit bothered about how their behaviour is making you feel, yet you are the one worrying about not upsetting them.

Remember you have every right to enjoy your home peacfully, you have every right to choose who you do or don;t socialise with and it is no one's business but yours. You've asked him nicely, now it's time to be blunt - he's being extremely rude to you and riding roughshod over your feelings.

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