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No training contract, fed up (solicitor-related)

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Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 16:39

I'm a paralegal in a field where you can actually go quite far in terms of responsibility - - running senior cases, appearing in tribunal--- whilst "only" being a paralegal. Not to sound boasty, but it's relevant that I'm well-known in the field, give seminars, etc. I enjoy this field of law. I've been practicing in this field about ten years.

I did the LPC (solicitor course) while working full-time, graduating about two years ago. I got a distinction, and the charity where I worked advertised a training contract position. I felt like it was all coming together.

For those of you who don't know, to qualify as a full solicitor a person has to finish the LPC course and also undergo a period of recognised training, officially registered with the Solicitors Regulation Authority and getting six months' experience in three different areas of law.

I applied for the training contract position at my job, and then it turned out that I was the only one in the charity who was technically eligible for it. So it became a kind of joke like, "Ha ha wonder who will get it". It would have meant moving to another dept temporarily.

However my supervisor hit the roof at the thought of my leaving the department I was in. At first she just ranted about how the training contract benefited no one but me, and then suddenly started finding fault with my work (previous reviews had been stellar), finally going to upper management and saying that my work was so poor quality that I shouldn't have a training contract. They just went along with it. It was really humiliating and awful and I quit to join a nice new firm.

My new position (six months in) is still "just" a paralegal, but pays better, nice work environment, good opportunities etc. They hadn't advertised a training contract but I figured I'd continue as "just" a paralegal whilst I regrouped.

Over the last few months, more management and administrative responsibilities have come my way. Most recently I have been put in charge of a small team of solicitors, who are less experienced than me in this area of law. In the course of this new responsibility some HR paperwork passed my desk, showing that they all earn more than me (presumably because they are full solicitors).

I already help out a bit in the other departments at my current firm, so I worked up a proposal wherein I could help in the X and Y departments, whilst still maintaining my current role, and fulfill a training contract that way. All they would have to do is register paperwork with the Solicitors Regulation Authority.

I got a flat "no". Evidently they don't like to do training contracts because people just leave afterwards. Okay.

For the last two years I've applied for every training contract I could find. I was offered one in London but I couldn't afford to relocate there for the salary the offered. I interviewed at two locally--one turned out to actually be a paralegal position with a "future option" for a training contract so I said no. The other said I wasn't successful in the application because I didn't have enough writing experience (Despite publishing articles in international journals? Okay. I presume it was a "fit" issue.)

Notwithstanding the tone of this post I really am not a bitter person. I'm pretty positive but this week I have just hit a wall.

I could just go into the corporate sector but I love working with clients and practicing!

Not sure what I am asking but wondering whether any solicitors could shed light. Should I take all this as a sign to just change fields?

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Alarae · 29/09/2019 16:58

I can see your frustration.

Considering you have been offered a training contract previously, could you not make a concerted effort to save as much as you can to use as a buffer for relocation costs if you have to take a temporary hit on salary?

It would be one of those things that incurring some debt, if needed, for the two years of your training contract to get qualified would be a good thing. Think about it like a student loan and better yourself.

Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 16:59

That's interesting. I could possibly think of it like that.

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SilverChime · 29/09/2019 17:09

You may have to take a hit and relocate for however long it takes to fulfil a training contract, even if you end up out of pocket. I know a few wannabe solicitors who are stuck in limbo because they can’t get training contracts, it’s a widespread problem. As you said, there’s no benefit to the firm to offer such a contract because people tend to use them to get qualified then leave. The firm can simply hire solicitors who are already qualified; your inability to get qualified isn’t their problem. If you can get a training contract ANYWHERE I’d grab it because I’ve seen graduates lose their careers due to not being able to get one for 5/10/15 years.

Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 17:12

I never applied for any "magic circle" training contracts because I thought it made mord sense to stay with firms engaged in "my area" of lw.

I'll regroup but to be honest I'm feeling so hurt and undervalued. My practice manager has been making noises about transferring some more supervisory stuff my way, and I'm just thinking to say, "You know, that sounds interesting but it's way over my pay grade".

I already got a 5% raise when promoted to supervisor but it's still way lower than those I supervise.

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jellybean85 · 29/09/2019 17:16

Would you not consider alternative methods like cilex or applying to the SRA for qualification via equivalent means, I know quite a few people who have taken that method and these days it's less of an impingement, besides once you're 4+ years PQE no one will care how you qualified.

Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 17:19

I can't figure out why the people I did the LPC with all happily moved into training contract roles in the firms where they already worked, whereas I now have two employers ostensibly value me but then recoil at the mention of a training contract.

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Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 17:20

I've looked at equivalent means but you still have to do three areas of law! Which I don't have.

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AlphaBravoCharlieDelta · 29/09/2019 17:22

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Namechangeforthiscancershit · 29/09/2019 17:22

CILEX sounds like your friend. You have the LPC and tons of legal experience so it shouldn't be difficult to qualify with them and then cross qualify as a solicitor.

Has something (like a crappy employer...) put you off that route?

Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 17:23

Maybe I'll look at the Cilex thingy. Looks like I'd register as a fellow and then just do one more year as a paralegal?

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Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 17:25

Okay, here I was ready to wallow but you all are making me perk up again. Grin

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Namechangeforthiscancershit · 29/09/2019 17:25

You're allowed to wallow (it's a Sunday!) but a year at their graduate level might be more useful...

cupoftea84 · 29/09/2019 17:25

I did volunteer work to get my 3 different areas. I also moved around the country to get to a position im happy with. I know not everyone can do either of those but it worked even if it took years.

Sockypuppet · 29/09/2019 17:33

It's not possible for me to volunteer to fulfill the equivalent means thing. I've looked into that.

Moving would only be possible if I went into debt.

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MrssC92 · 29/09/2019 17:48

I do agree that a lot of newly qualifieds do leave so i do think that could be a genuine fear of your current employers. You could maybe suggest a contract whereby after qualifying you agree to stay for x amount of time or pay back what they pay for you (ie the professional skills course and your practising certificate) I know a couple of small local firms that offer that. Other wise cilex also sounds a good option

NoWordForFluffy · 29/09/2019 17:58

Have they changed the CILEX requirements? You didn't used to be able to go via that route if you'd already completed the LPC (as long as you joined before getting your final grade you could do it). Maybe it has changed now, but worth keeping in mind.

Have you looked at the Superexam? If CILEX isn't possible, then there is still that option.

NoWordForFluffy · 29/09/2019 18:10

Ah, they have changed their requirements. You would be exempt from further study, you'd just need the work requirements: www.cilexcareers.org.uk/qualifications/law-graduates/chartered-legal-execs/lpc-and-bptc-graduates

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