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I'm not racist but...

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MIdgebabe · 27/09/2019 22:36

I guess most people accept that the statement "I am not racist but " usually comes before a very racist remark.

But I have noticed another phrase common on here

"I'm not racist, I just don't like "

Why is it similar? Because you can't really know why you don't like someone. You may think it's a rational dislike, but all the evidence is that it's actually an unconscious decision on top of which you add rationality.

All the evidence? Because BAME people know they are more likely to be disliked / police searched / lose out at interviews than white people. Because we know that people who are chosen in blind tests are not chosen if the tests are not blind, no matter how unbiased the people doing the choosing think they are.

It's really difficult, and it is hard / daft to attribute to individuals a behaviour that emerges from people on average. And most people want and try to be non-racist

But when a BAME person suspects that racism underlies something, denying that , which happens on here, or claiming "not me" seems a very racist thing to do.

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pusspuss9 · 30/09/2019 06:44

^I think it's because the paedophiles who operate in gangs and target young vulnerable girls are in the main of pakistani origin.

Do you have evidence or is it just your perception?^

Do you ever read the UK newspapers? There's a long list starting with Rotherham

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FredaFrogspawn · 30/09/2019 07:02

Boopsy that is one of the most honest posts on this thread. Please don’t give up working on it.

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Lweji · 30/09/2019 07:28

Do you ever read the UK newspapers? There's a long list starting with Rotherham

Do you think newspaper coverage is evidence?
And it depends on what newspapers. I'm very aware that some are all about "look what the non-white person did".

Lweji · 30/09/2019 07:38

boopsy

Being aware that we can be more or less racist is key, IMO.
Although it's not comfortable.

That's why the expression "I'm not racist" (sexist, etc) is usually uttered by those who are. They lack the self awareness and self criticism that, for example, you have.

I question myself every time, try to learn about it and modify my behaviour if necessary. Not claiming to be a shinning example, but that's the best any one of us can do, I think.

If you're not racist, your actions and your words will match, you'll never need to say "I'm not but..."

Lweji · 30/09/2019 07:40

And going back to the OP, "I just don't like" is another form of "but".
The word but doesn't need to be there, just the first "I'm not racist".

TeaAddict235 · 30/09/2019 08:20

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Fizzypoo · 30/09/2019 08:25

@pusspuss9 please read this fact check it's fact check is based on 2013 CEOP (which is the digital safeguarding police organisation). www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/what-do-we-know-about-the-ethnicity-of-sexual-abuse-gangs

There are two types of paedophiles, one who is mostly Pakistani and target teenagers and young adults.

Type two target small children. They are 100% white. These are the paedophiles who are family members, community members, scout leaders, nursery workers, school teachers and the MPs and the judges. I don't however look at all judges and assume they are paedophiles, probably as I said before because of my unconscious bias due to the fact I am white.

Queenbean · 30/09/2019 08:48

Our streets are unsafe, therefore anyone from outside the community coming in will be attacked. Any domestic crimes around our homes are normally our fault.

Are you saying that is the assumption of your community or the fact?

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pusspuss9 · 30/09/2019 10:25

@fizzypoo
thank you for your replies. I will check the link this afternoon. I'm always open to having my mind changed.

Kingoftheroad · 30/09/2019 18:21

queenbee I meant the normal assumption from outside of the community. I heard someone say recently “they steal the washing from the lines”

cinderellainyellakissedafella · 01/10/2019 11:03

I grew up in the back arse of nowhere and was severely bullied at school because I wasn't one of the locals or from the local hole (ie hamlet) and rural people in general are the nosiest and nastiest people I have ever met (I grew up rural too but am not nasty in general)

flashbac · 01/10/2019 18:57

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make cinderella?

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