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I've been offered an Apprenticeship but didn't tell them I have a degree! Will they found out?!

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ApprenticeMess · 15/09/2019 09:53

I applied for an apprenticeship job. I went to the interview and they asked me if I had a degree/ what my highest qualification was . I lied and said I didn't have a degree. I don't know why I said no. I usually always leave it out of application forms and never mention it. I am so ashamed of it.

Now I'm worried that my new employer will find out that I do.have a degree and it will affect the funding of the apprenticeship.

Does anyone know anything about how these things work. Will they find out somehow when they do "checks" or something?

I really regret not saying and if I now tell them I do have a degree they will think I'm bloody weird and a liar!

OP posts:

category12 · 15/09/2019 11:21

It depend if it was in a completely different study area. You might well be able to do an apprenticeship - I did and got the funding because it was completely different fields. I think how long ago it was might also play into it.

You silly arse.

LolaSmiles · 15/09/2019 11:22

Passthecherrycoke
Every job I've applied for has said full education history, full employment history and any gaps in employment must be explained and accounted for.

soccerbabe · 15/09/2019 11:22

OP, I've got a professional qualification that I don't use, and it can make it a bit awkward applying for jobs that technically I appear overqualified for. Fortunately I am able to put a positivish spin on it, so it doesn't throw me at interview. (My work area is one where it's very important to have no unexplained gaps).

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Passthecherrycoke · 15/09/2019 11:26

Oh right maybe that’s the case for entry level jobs where there isn’t much history, or jobs with application forms? No one can tell you how to do your CV.

When I recruit I bin the cvs that include every sorry detail like their gap year aubergine picking and job in a solicitors office after uni. For most people that level of detail is damaging.

Passthecherrycoke · 15/09/2019 11:27

@soccerbabe you’re doing totally the right thing. You should always exclude irrelevant qualifications that make you look over qualified. You’re trying to sell yourself for that role, not detail your whole life for every application!

Reallybadidea · 15/09/2019 11:28

At this stage, perhaps call the provider [anonymously] or check their website and say you are interested in x apprenticeship but you have a degree, would you still be eligible for the funding. Then ask them for the detail on who is eligible. And then you have that in your back pocket.

This seems like a good idea to me. There's a lot of hysteria on this thread, talk of being prosecution etc. Yeah right, the police definitely have the resources to chase people for fibbing on their cv

Passthecherrycoke · 15/09/2019 11:28

Who said about prosecution? 🤣

Passthecherrycoke · 15/09/2019 11:28

Sorry that was a genuine question as I missed it!

LolaSmiles · 15/09/2019 11:34

Passthecherrycoke
They're not entry level jobs and none of them were CV submission. All standardised application form.

It never needed lots of details so if you were a full time student at college/uni but did some ad hoc hours that's never expected unless relevant because you were a full time student, but you'd have to say "gap year 2004/5 - travelling and part time work" or "Career break 2012-14", and then if they wanted information they could request it.

Maybe it's because to a greater or lesser degree there has always been contact with vulnerable groups and/or children in my roles so when I saw it on teaching forms I've just assemed it was the norm.

On every form I've applied using there is a box stating that the information is correct and that if it's found to be incorrect then it can lead to disciplinary or dismissal too.

Reallybadidea · 15/09/2019 11:37

A couple of posters did. It's fraud apparently. I am nervously awaiting a knock on my front door because I said in my job interview that I go fell walking in my spare time, which is a total lie.

Longlongsummer · 15/09/2019 11:38

I’d definitely tell them. Just get it out there now and say you were flustered at the interview. It’ll be ok.

titchy · 15/09/2019 11:42

I worked in apprenticeship recruitment and it will come up when they apply for your funding and they will not be able to get any.

That's not true. Maybe you should rethink your job....

TheAlternativeTentacle · 15/09/2019 11:42

I have 4 degrees, and I only ever put what ones are relevant on the form required. I also leave off jobs if not required for experience for the role.

TheAlternativeTentacle · 15/09/2019 11:43

On every form I've applied using there is a box stating that the information is correct and that if it's found to be incorrect then it can lead to disciplinary or dismissal too

That means that the experience or qualifications aren't made up, not that you have put your whole life history in there.

LolaSmiles · 15/09/2019 11:45

reallybadidea
Lying explicitly or by omission on the application forms I've filled in would be grounds for disciplinary or dismissal. There's a declaration at the end of the form saying so.

Prosecution would be a bit much, but it's certainly an issue.

Legalities and policy aside, if you want a good working relationship with new employers why would you like about qualifications? It's a really stupid thing to do and coukd knock your reputation if it comes out later (e.g. is the OP going to monitor everything they say for years so they don't accidentally mention an anecdote from university or the time they spent briefly in pharmacy?)

MollyButton · 15/09/2019 11:45

Confess and tell the truth now! Honesty is the best policy - and if for whatever reason they find out later that would be a huge black mark against your name.

titchy · 15/09/2019 11:47

OP your employer will still as you rightly say be able to claim for your training. The Learner Records Service will not list your degree, although it will list your A levels and GCSEs. Although if you are over 34 (ish...) you probably won't be on it.

With no loan your employer is unlikely to find out. But while honesty is better - it's entirely up to you and your conscience.

PlaymobilPirate · 15/09/2019 11:50

There's a government system called MiAp. It details every qual you've done for the last 10 years. Your employer would need a login, your name, dob and postcode to check your quals

Aridane · 15/09/2019 11:54

I work with apprentices and there is a database that says what quals you have but I don't think it includes anything above Alevels

Sorry - but what is this central database?!?

Aridane · 15/09/2019 11:55

Cross post

Aridane · 15/09/2019 11:55

Bloody hell - big brother GDPR nightmare

Cordial11 · 15/09/2019 11:56

Apologies then if this has changed, it was just before the levvy I finished in apprenticeship recruitment - hopefully you should be able to avoid it coming up then!

FinallyHere · 15/09/2019 11:56

Pinkdoor apprenticeships are open to everyone WITH or without degrees as long as the subject is unrelated to the Apprenticeship qualification.

If what you said to Pinkdoor is true, why did you lie?

It jut a great idea to start such a brilliant opportunity under the shadow of a lie. Why not 'fess up and start with a clean slate ?

Survivingchipandkippee · 15/09/2019 11:58

They asked you a specific question and you were dishonest. If down
the line it comes out e.g. someone on your degree started working with the company or you let it slip in conversation it will look really bad. It’s going to be hanging over your head. Maybe best to act silly and you want to check that question about the degree was about one in the subject area.

Passthecherrycoke · 15/09/2019 12:07

@LolaSmiles they use applications in some parts of the public sector but it’s very old fashioned and would put lots of good candidates off. But it makes sense with teaching/ security services/ police etc to ensure you haven’t been up to anything naughty. That’s not a standard situation really though.

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