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Have you hear, or do you use, the phrase "small beer"

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AnOojamaflip · 13/09/2019 16:50

Meaning unimportant.

If you have, or do, where you from? (And vise versa.)

Never heard it in my life. Just heard it now for the first time ever! (or possibly just not noticed it before).

I spent a good chunk of my childhood in the Midlands but then got moved about a lot after that.

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HunterHearstHelmsley · 13/09/2019 16:51

Never heard it. West Midlands.

Like small fry?

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 13/09/2019 16:52

Like a half pint or something?

64sNewName · 13/09/2019 16:53

Yes, I’ve heard that. More often read it than heard it spoken.

It’s quite an old-fashioned turn of phrase. I used to read a lot of older books as a young person and I’ve known this expression since childhood, but I see it less frequently now.

AnOojamaflip · 13/09/2019 16:53

Think so.

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64sNewName · 13/09/2019 16:54

I think it originates in the name of a type of actual beer (maybe the weak sort of beer that people used to drink instead of water in ye olden times?) but it evolved as an idiom to refer to something unimportant or insignificant.

AnOojamaflip · 13/09/2019 16:55

Sorry - think so was to small fry. Half pint is more about being small. Small beer means an unimportant thing.

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64sNewName · 13/09/2019 16:55

I could have that wrong though. I didn’t stop to check it before posting.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 13/09/2019 16:55

Yes and yes!

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 13/09/2019 16:57

"Small beer means an unimportant thing."

In that case I have no idea. I thought you meant a literal small glass of beer.

msmith501 · 13/09/2019 16:58

I use it and hear it all the time. 54 years old and born in the midlands but worked all over and now in North West UK. Small beer means something that is either too small to worry about or something that is the near the bottom of (say) a list of things to do. eg the British Government have demonstrated that the normal business of the day - running the country - has been small beer compared with the huge priority hat is Brexit.... maybe being a little sardonic.

Ohyesiam · 13/09/2019 16:58

Yes I’ve heard it, maybe from my Irish mum, but she picks up phrases like a magpie picks up gold, so I doubt it’s Irish.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 13/09/2019 16:59

And 64's right, it relates to very weak beer, so it's of no importance ' I'm not drunk, it was just small beer'.

Hefzi · 13/09/2019 16:59

64 has it. I use it, and have heard it also - SE, but like 64 was a reader of "old-fashioned" books (and come from an old-fashioned family) so this may be why

Metempsychosis · 13/09/2019 17:00

Have read the phrase a lot in older books but I don’t think I’ve ever used it myself or seen/heard it used in IRL.

AnOojamaflip · 13/09/2019 17:01

Yes it's apparently comes from weak beer

Listening to 'Something Rhymes with Purple' podcast - Susie Dent and Gyles Brandreth mentioned it almost like it was an ordinary term.

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lazylinguist · 13/09/2019 17:02

Yes I've heard it a number of times. I'm from the SE of England originally but now live in the NW. Small beer meant beer with low alcohol content, but the expression means something unimportant, as you say in the OP.

AnOojamaflip · 13/09/2019 17:03

Not that I'd be suprised Susie Dent knows it even it it is rare!!

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JumpyLiz · 13/09/2019 17:03

Yes heard it and use it.

mbosnz · 13/09/2019 17:03

Yes, fairly common as a phrase in NZ.

lazylinguist · 13/09/2019 17:06

I think it's pretty common for educated, well-read people to come out with literary or slightly archaic expressions that many people don't use. I'm a teacher and wouldn't say I usually use highbrow language, but I do sometimes use an expression which I consider fairly normal, to be greeted by blank looks from students.

ChampagneCommunist · 13/09/2019 17:10

Yes, and I use it quite often.

LBOCS2 · 13/09/2019 17:13

Yes, heard it and would use it. I'm in my 30s in London - but had an older parent, so possibly from there?

Adversecamber22 · 13/09/2019 17:13

Yes and used it a few times, I’m originally from the SE like another poster who uses it.

FreyaMountstuart · 13/09/2019 17:27

Yes I know the phrase - recall it from my childhood in Wales

dontcallmelen · 13/09/2019 17:29

Yes I have heard it & probably used it now & then, my parents definitely said I’m from London.

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