173 people

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That is how the BBC news reported the latest statistics on domestic violence killings.

I am willing to bet that nearly all those "people" were women people.

Don't pussyfoot around it BBC, tell it how it is.

The vast majority of domestic violence victims are women killed by men. See, that wasn't too hard was it.

Yeah this got right up my nose too. BBC managed to write an entire article about it without using the word “woman” once

The article literally says “Whilst both men and women are killed by domestic violence, the vast majority of victims are women.”

The one I read at 6am this morning didn’t.

I see a poster on domestic abuse every week when I go for compelling. One of the people out of four being abused is a woman, I wish that was the reality.

Sorry, should have made it clear it was the news report on Radio 4 at 9.00 am that I heard, that failed to mention women at all. Will go and read the online report too. I have emailed the BBC to say they should make it clear that the majority of the "people" were women.

Taken in conjunction with the shocking report yesterday about the reduction in successful rape prosecutions (often caused by the refusal of CPS to take cases forward) it really does feel as though women's safety is slipping further and further down the list of things that are important enough to warrant doing anything about.

BBC have updated the story now as mentioned above.

So they’ve said around 3/4 of victims were women, leaving us to think that 1/4 victims were men - they’ve not said how many of those victims were children.

So BBC, can you just tell us how many of those 173 people were adult men killed by their partner or ex-partner please. Stop gaming the figures.

11.00 am news report very slightly better, BBC wording exactly the same , ie "people", but a statement was made by a spokeswoman fromWomens Aid which did mention that it is overwhelmingly women being killed by partners.

jellycatspyjamas Fri 13-Sep-19 11:04:18
So they’ve said around 3/4 of victims were women, leaving us to think that 1/4 victims were men - they’ve not said how many of those victims were children.

I heard that percentage, and thought exactly the same, I imagine the percent of men killed is much smaller than 25%

Each case is as serious as the next so saying “people seems right to me”.

It’s not about each case being as serious as the next, it’s about denying that women are far, far more likely to die at the hands of their partners/ex partners than men. It starts to skew the discourse around gender based violence and erodes safe space for women, which seems to be under attack from all sides at the moment.

Saying “people” suggests all people are affected equally, which simply isn’t the case.

Well, there’s a big protest planned by survivors of domestic abuse and they all may be women
October 26 Parliament square London at noon
Fb Page #The court said
should tell you more
Hoping it’s going to be huge
Please go along and support it if you are able
Lots of mothers, including my own daughter in law, have lost their beloved children to the perpetrators of the abuse through the family court system
Children have been ripped from loving homes and given to these abusive men who are hurting them physically and or emotionally

Pass the message on to any vulnerable women you know or if you are local please go along and lend your support

Sadly most women do not realise they are only a whisker away from this situation if their relationship goes belly up and their ex is a piece of work.

Ps..I know it’s not just men

A quarter of the victims may be men. What is never emphasised is that a great deal of those men are abused by other men (partners, male family members).

The last figures I saw were 90%: women killed by a male partner, 9%: men killed by a male partner 1%: men killed by a female partner. Some years there are NO men killed by women, that's how rare it is.

A quarter of the victims may be men. What is never emphasised is that a great deal of those men are abused by other men (partners, male family members).

What does it matter though? They’re still victims of domestic violence. They still deserve to be acknowledged in the figures. Their lives matter just as much as the women who have been killed.

It matters because the perpetrators are much much more likely to be men. Male violence is the issue and that’s being skirted around.

They do deserve to be represented in the figures, of course they do but to not quantify the degree of disparity between women killed by men and men killed in intimate partner relationships does a huge disservice to both. It’s incredibly rare for a man to be killed by their female partner, that needs to be properly recognised if appropriate risk management strategies are to be developed. You need to acknowledge that women are considerably more at risk and therefore need more robust processes and services.

If a quater of the victims were men, it's guaranteed there would have been reports of at least some in the media. I can't recall one in recent years. The last one I can remember was Tracie Andrews in 1996, and that was big news.

Sorry, I meant to say men killed by women.

I heard the report earlier and was also irritated by the fact that it was concluded there needs to be more help for domestic violence victims, fair enough, but fuck-all was mentioned about maybe stopping men killing and abusing people and why these figures are rising.

Can I just say, Disgrace, that you're misnamed. If more men were like you the world would be a better place.

Maybe they were gender neutral
Ffs people moan about anything these days
Get over it it doesn't matter what they call them

I actually think anything that encourages men who are abused, to come forward and report it, is a positive step. I like the neutral language for that point alone.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g: very kind of you. Incidentally, do you think this looks like your namesake?