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Father Throws Baby Son off Bridge In Manchester

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Jesaminecollins · 12/09/2019 05:06

I just read about this and cannot understand how he could have done this to his little baby son - it is beyond horrific.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7453437/Baby-boy-fighting-life-hospital-thrown-river.html

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SherbetSaucer · 12/09/2019 15:26

Heartbreaking!! I’ve not read the article but in such cases there will often be a custody dispute happening. If so the thought process is ‘if I can’t have them neither can you’ OR there will have been a disagreement with the other parent in which case the child is not the focus of the rage but is killed to hurt the other parent.

Cases where men (and it usually is men though not always) kill their whole family and often themselves are different. These are family anihilators. Crimes are usually committed in August, by white males in their 30s. There is often financial difficulties (father believes he is protecting family by killing them), he’s seeking a fresh start with a mistress or wants to get revenge on the mother.

Whatwaswrongwiththatusername · 12/09/2019 16:49

@Soola Yeah, I guess so. I think it’s just the way that particular bit is worded and that it’s right at the top, in bold. I’ve seen some articles with a similar bit at the end (eg BBC news app etc), but not at the top, nor usually on stories as sensitive as this. Or at least certainly less insensitively worded. But then again, I do rarely read anything on the DM so maybe this is usual for them? I suppose, for some reason - to me - it just seems so salacious in this instance. I think that’s probably the best way to describe why it just feels so ‘off’ in this particular context.

Whatwaswrongwiththatusername · 12/09/2019 16:51

To add, I think it’s that phrase, in particular; ‘did you see what happened?’

Taggle · 12/09/2019 18:15

What a fucking bastard.

Ferretyone · 12/09/2019 18:33

The sad thing about homicides [in UK at least] is that a family member or someone known to the victim is frequently the perpetrator.

Jesaminecollins · 13/09/2019 03:54

He has now been charged with murder - may he rot in hell.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/dad-charged-murder-son-after-16911349

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BrainFart · 13/09/2019 05:56

Absolutely terrible news.

However, in the interests of learning something, and irritated by the handful of knee-jerk declarations / lazy assumptions that it's normally fathers who kill their children, this is apparently not the case.

Data from 33 countries distinguishing the perpetrators of parental homicides of children under the age of 18 years showed that mothers committed just over half of all parental homicides (median 54.7%, IQR 36.7–68.8); in high-income countries, the median percentage was 44.4% (IQR 36.7–66.7), in the East Asia and Pacific region, 64.6% (IQR 59.0–69.3), in the Americas, 15.4% (IQR 13.3–17.4), in Africa, 88.6% (IQR 71.1–100.0), in low-income and middle-income Europe, 60.4% (IQR 45.8–75.0) and in the Mediterranean region, 7.4% (IQR 0.0–14.8).

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JellyNo15 · 13/09/2019 06:08

I couldn't sleep last night for thinking about this. Poor baby and mum. I feel for the witnesses too. Evil bastard.

Weezol · 13/09/2019 06:23

It may be no comfort, but he will end up in hell in prison - baby killers are not treated well by other prisoners and officers often turn a blind eye to them being 'bullied'.

There's a good chance he'll be marked so that every time he transfers his new home will know what he is by the time he goes to collect his dinner. Sometimes it will be the grapevine, sometimes a member of staff will let it slip.

Don't fall for the 'prison is a holiday camp' stuff in the media. Men's prisons are grim, noisy, stinking institutions of surpassing tedium. If he's a thug he'll spend his time on basic as he's unlikely to be compliant enough to gain any 'priveliges' (like more than one shower a week)' at all. No chance of 'enhanced' status for this one.

He'd be advised to avoid kettles.

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