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Can someone answer a quick question ASAP about work things please??

26 replies

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 12:47

So Iv been offered a zero hour contract job..... just doing some training and they’ve just gone on lunch. Iv only ever been employed. Do I get a contact being on a zero hour contact? As in a physical contract??

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BertieBotts · 10/09/2019 12:48

Yes.

BertieBotts · 10/09/2019 12:49

Unless you are freelance, anyway, I'm a bit confused by your "only ever been employed" comment.

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 13:13

Iv started a zero hour contract job, do I need a physical contact is my question. I mean Iv only ever been employed as in 9-5 Monday to Friday same wage each month etc.

He hasn’t mentioned a contact.... so didn’t want to look silly asking for one if I don’t ‘need’ one. Everyone else is self employed in company so don’t get sick pay etc etc..

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Getterfeck · 10/09/2019 13:15

Yes you need a contract, some employers say ‘zero hours’ when they actually mean cash in hand. If it’s zero hours, you should have a contract and access to more rights.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 10/09/2019 13:17

You're entitled to a statement of particulars within two months of starting work.

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 13:19

It didn’t cash in hand definitely as I’ll be doing the self employed peoples wages.... they get paid weekly as self employed.

What if he says I don’t have one?

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 13:19

What’s a statement of particulars?

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MrsMaiselsMuff · 10/09/2019 13:19

Have they told you how much you will be paid, what your holiday entitlement is (or how it is calculated), any sick pay entitlement?

TheLidoOfThighs · 10/09/2019 13:20

Here you are OP

www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions

NoWayNoHow · 10/09/2019 13:26

We issue letters of engagement for casual/zero hours workers, and their hourly rate includes holiday pay. You should certainly have some paperwork outlining how you get paid, reporting absence if you can't take up the work offered, the fact that each piece of work is a separate, distinct undertaking, etc etc

melissasummerfield · 10/09/2019 13:28

Yes you should get a contract.

ChildminderMum · 10/09/2019 13:29

Are you genuinely self employed?

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 13:30

I read the link as I don’t need a contact but need things agreed in writing? I’m guessing with regards to sick pay and holiday pay... is down to their discretion?

No I have a zero hour contract employed. I had choice, that or self employed.

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WorldEndingFire · 10/09/2019 13:43

Please join a trade union so you have the necessary support and legal protection at work. It's tough being on a zero-hours contract and there can be little recourse if you're mistreated. You'll be safer and stronger in a union and you can ask for advice on issues like this: www.gmb.org.uk/

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 13:51

It’s a very small company, one husband and wife and then about 3 self employed people?

Does it cost to be in a trade union? Is there more than one of them?

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inwood · 10/09/2019 13:53

For clarification do you mean contract or contact?

FlatheadScrewdriver · 10/09/2019 16:46

A contract of employment sets out your terms and conditions including your rate of pay, how holiday will be earned and paid, pension, and the contracted hours. In a zero hours contract that will evidently be "zero" and there should be some sort of clause that sets out the right of the employer to offer you hours and your right to accept or decline them. A "statement of particulars" sets out your terms too. You should have a contract or a statement.

You can have a look on www.gov.uk for the definitions of "worker" and "employee" and "self employed" and see where you feel your job would fit best. The ACAS website is excellent for more detailed advice.

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 17:22

Thanks. He confirmed I will get holiday pay and that I will accrue it based on how many hours Iv worked..... does anyone know where I would find that type of calculator or is it down to employer?

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Boobiliboobiliboo · 10/09/2019 17:24

*Everyone else is self employed in company so don’t get sick pay etc etc..i

Absolute fiddle. I bet HMRC wouldn’t agree they were self employed.

Boobiliboobiliboo · 10/09/2019 17:26

does anyone know where I would find that type of calculator or is it down to employer?
Google. Wink

www.breathehr.com/blog/zero-hours-contracts-holiday-pay-and-entitlement

Are you qualified for the job they’ve offered you? What if you turn down hours? How will the others get paid?

WingBingo · 10/09/2019 17:30

You really should know this stuff if you are going to be doing the wages.

OUwhatnext · 10/09/2019 17:38

Paying 3 invoices once a week will take minutes, what is the job role?

Ouchmyheadhurts · 10/09/2019 17:44

I don’t mean ‘doing’ payroll as in physically paying, I meant sorting their invoices and forwarding them to the boss who then physically sorts paying them. There is a company they use for payroll as Iv sent them my p45. My job is just admin.

The others are self employed as they are ‘trade’ manual workers, I’m employed with zero hours as I don’t want SE. If I chose not to work I don’t get paid.... it suits me as I need flexibility due to caring role.

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Boobiliboobiliboo · 10/09/2019 17:58

Self employed people don’t get wages via payroll.

Confused about what you are “sorting”.

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