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Advise for issues with neighbour cctv

13 replies

lvsel · 09/09/2019 14:38

Ever since they have moved in they have been nothing but issues for me I know the hate comes from their dislike of me being non white and they have made comments to make this obvious.

They moved in and without meeting me instantly made complaints to the housing association about me and the police.

I was nearly arrested because they made a false allegation I threatened to hit one of them only because I had a recording I wasnt arrested and a very reasonable officer let me show him the recording before arresting me.

Since then it has been nothing but mental torture.

Throwing rubbish in my bins not belonging to me which she did because she had a professional witness in the property and wanted to start trouble in Hope's I would do something. However all I did was record her and inform police

I have had 4 nails in my tyres since they been here.

They deliberately had a barbecue directly below my window (they are ground floor I'm top) after I complained of their smoking under my window which they were told to move. Their garden is big and they could have the barbecue anywhere else. It is 100% they did this to cause annoyance.

They have banged on the ceiling at me.
Threatened me ect but all police say is he said she said

I had the HO round a few weeks ago who after looking at my flat and meeting me believes it is bullying against me.

I reported these neighbours for parking on my car. Yes she left her car reversed into my car touching the bonnet.

Now she has installed CCTV to face the street which myself and others walk pass

I know this is not okay and have already informed the HO and police

Tbh I want them arrested I have had enough. I have tried to ignore them and it is constant mental crap they keep doing. The police in london are rubbish but how can I have them arrested for harassment? Evidence I have:

Recording of her putting rubbish in my bin
Recording of me confronting her after she could me a wanker (cant see her do it though just me say it)
Photo of the cctv
Photo of her parked on my car
Garage receipts of nails in my tyres
Photos of spit on my car
Recording of the barbecue below my window
Copy of two notes I have sent asking them to stop harassing me.

I want to give a statement and I want the police to investigate this.

The neighbours usually make up false counter allegations to avoid prosecution however I feel I have a lot of evidence including my medical history of what it has done to me mentally and I'm pregnant right now.

The neighbours are two women

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IWouldPreferNotTo · 09/09/2019 14:47

Let's go through these one by one

Recording of her putting rubbish in my bin
This is unlikely to be high on the priority list of crimes

Recording of me confronting her after she could me a wanker (cant
see her do it though just me say it)
So this is just a recording of you having words with them?

Photo of the cctv
This is something that could potentially need to be dealt with. It's worth noting that it's not actually always illegal to record the road, there are considerations which need to be taken into account

Photo of her parked on my car
That's a sign of bad parking and unless there's damage to your car or you're being blocked in it's hard to claim it's harassment.

Garage receipts of nails in my tyres
Could easily be argued they were picked up from where you drive

Photos of spit on my car
That could be anyone's spit

Recording of the barbecue below my window
Rude but probably not actually illegal

Copy of two notes I have sent asking them to stop harassing me.
Not actually proof that they've done anything.

You could look at it from the other angle. These are people who have had you harass them regarding smoking, been confronted while being recorded, been sent repeated notes about their behaviour and feel so unsafe they've installed CCTV.

Now I don't think you are harassing them. I just think that you don't have any evidence of them harassing you and by calling the police and escalating this you could move into a position where you are harassing them.

HappyHammy · 09/09/2019 14:54

Buy a bin lock then they cant use your bin
Are you able to park your car a bit further up out of their way
The h.o. can ask them about their CCTV as there are rules around this
Perhaps you should stop filming them, take advise from your h.o.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 09/09/2019 14:59

Disappointing that someone posts about being harassed due to being a person of colour, and the first responses tell the OP to adjust their own behaviour.

Harassment is rarely clear cut, and can often be a sequence of low level events that are difficult to evidence. OP find out who your community police officer or PCSO is, and arrange to meet with them and the housing officer. Without firm evidence the police are not going to be able to take a great deal of action, but they can issue a harassment notice and they can formulate a plan of what to do next.

Cindy55 · 09/09/2019 15:15

The poster must be a racist themselves, definitely voted leave the prick.

Gilead · 09/09/2019 16:04

How is the poster racist Cindy? Your post makes no sense.

Also disappointed that the OP is told to adjust their behaviour when being harassed.

RosaWaiting · 09/09/2019 16:11

“I know the hate comes from their dislike of me being non white and they have made comments to make this obvious.“

Their racist remarks should be reported to police.

sheshootssheimplores · 09/09/2019 16:14

The police are very hot on hate crimes. I wonder if you framed their behaviour as a hate crime due to race, they might take your allegations more seriously?

lvsel · 09/09/2019 16:16

I did report the racist remarks and they turned it around and said I was homophobic even though I'm bi.
They kept making up stories to the police and HO about me like I'm dirty, a tramp, my bins over flow ect and when the HO met me and come in my flat it was a different story which is why she said she sees it as bullying.

Whilst they aren't doing anything directly its the passive aggressive approach (think that's the right word) which they are doing.

There was also damage to my car.

Maybe cindy is the neighbour lol

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lvsel · 09/09/2019 16:18

The remarkes were he said she said to the police because they made counter allegations even though these counter allegations were after they learnt I reported them.

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ElizaDee · 09/09/2019 16:35

Get your own CCTV, that looks over where you would encounter them (preferably with sound) and also over where you park your car.

Get a diary and record everything.

Start documenting what they are doing.

HappyHammy · 09/09/2019 17:09

Speak to your h.o. about the legality of putting up CCTV or a camera that overlooks where the problems happen, you need sound too. It doesnt matter that they are two women, surely yours and their sexuality isn't relevant unless either of you feel its homophobic. Keep a diary of any incidents and record any confrontations or arguments.

Madfrogs · 09/09/2019 17:47

I think you are going to struggle to be honest.

They are going to claim the cctv is because they are afraid of the homophobic person upstairs, your going to be saying they are harassing you and being racist.

You have no proof re the nails or spit, rubbish although annoying you don’t actually own your bin the council do. A bbq is a bbq and not illegal even if annoying for you. Already mentioned the cctv and the two notes are part of their proof of your harassment of them the same as the confrontation with your camera out to record them.

lvsel · 09/09/2019 19:38

The housing recommended to send a letter to them. When they first moved in it said I dont understand what I've done to you but sorry ect

The second was stop harassing me or I will take you to court

In the letter it also said about them making up false allegations I'm homophobic when they have no evidence of this nor have I ever said anything homophobic to them. Futhermore as stated I'm bisexual myself.

The recording of me confronting her fair enough but I also said to her I'm not scared of her and to stop making up stuff about me.

The other recording with the bin i called her out on her lies about me being homophobic and she stuttered obviously because she knows it's a lie.

The bbq was classed as anti social and they are banned from having them now from the HA. They didn't have one all this summer.

The other recordings the housing and police told me to do this.

Shes actually installed another one now pointing directly to the street.

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