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Thatisme · 08/09/2019 01:07

I don't know what to expect from this post or how this is going to help me but I'll give it a go, maybe someone has been in a similar predicament and can give a word of advice. I have been married for 14 years with a man who I loved very much but has deeply rooted issues that I can no longer handle. We have 2 DC and since after the birth of our first one 11 1/2 years ago he has started to have moments when he just would lash out verbally and rubbish our relationship, life, future...the lot. It had happened a few times before the DC were born (we dated for a few years) but they were not a regular occurrence. Two children later (aged 11 and 9) and this behaviour is something that I expect to happen at some point especially during stressful and busy times and it has deeply affected our marriage. He has let me down with his pent- up anger during very hard times in my life and I have grown a huge amount of resentment towards him. It's as if something switched in his brain and he turned into an unreasonable, cruel and abusive man. After a few used to be hours now days, he usually turns back again into the man I know and married. In the past this used to be followed by profuse apologies and promises but now we just move on and pretend it never happened which I believe is a bad sign. I spent so much energy and time trying to get to the bottom of this. I talked to him, I read self help books, I even got counselling but ultimately even the counsellor confirmed that it takes two to make things happen and he's the one who should seek help (btw he won't). On the outside he's a meek, patient man who sides a chatty, confident woman. In reality this chatty, confident woman is lonely and unloved despite all her efforts and doesn't tell anyone about the awful stuff she has to go through. I hide it to friends and family, I make excuses for his absence or silence, I won't of course tell the kids although they have witnessed first hand his outbursts in many cases caused by them. I feel like I live in a big lie which I am feeding and facilitating by not taking drastic action. But what should I do? Break my children's hearts? Live on the streets? Abandon my family? After a few days of him being an absent husband and father because of excessive work commitments (which he mostly brings upon himself and doesn't get paid for) I asked for a simple phone call if he can't be back for dinner and this triggered his rage. He has now moved to the spare room and said he'll move out as soon as he can. He doesn't care if I can't manage alone. His mother did and I should do the same, those were his words. He did not want to engage in any adult conversation and physically pushed me out of the room and shut the door. My poor 9 year old son later asked him why he was shouting at mummy to get out like that.

It's wrong and I know I don't deserve it. I also know it's not him being an arsehole but his total refusal to face his responsibilities as a husband and father put him in the wrong. This sounds very dramatic but sometimes I wish I could just disappear, go to sleep and never wake up ....but I have my kids to take care of and I have to be there for them. In the perfect world he would listen to my pleas and get some counselling but this will never happen and then what?

OP posts:
glsgow107 · 08/09/2019 01:17

So are you petrified of this man or just scared to leave?

glsgow107 · 08/09/2019 01:20

That sounded harsher than what I meant. If you're afraid you'll hurt you or your children you need to leave. Or can you bide your time until he does? Either way? You're doing good. You're there for your kids. Thanks

TheMustressMhor · 08/09/2019 01:34

You have described my first marriage and I completely understand how you're feeling.

It is actually terrifying. Everybody thinks everything is all right but actually, you're so scared and wondering how the hell you can get away from this situation.

My ex-husband was also physically violent to me, as well as the shouting. It was worse when he had had a drink but he did it when he was sober, too.

For the sake of your children you need to make plans to end your marriage. Your husband won't go for counselling. Your children, and you, deserve a peaceful life.

I can't tell you how calm I felt once I had left my ex. Yes, it was logistically difficult. But it was worth it.

Do you own your home or rent it? Our was rented and the judge awarded me and the children the flat. Ex had to move out. Kids and I stayed at my sister's till after the court case then I moved back in with them. I had to have the police there to make him leave. It was awful.

I know it seems impossible at the moment but what would you advise a friend to do in the same circumstances?

You can get advice here

Best of luck. You will need courage to do this but it is the only way.

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FishyMcFishyfingersFace · 08/09/2019 04:35

Wow, you can feel the emotion in your post OP, you need help and you need it now.

Please get in touch with Women's Aid, they are there to help you and your dcs, they can advise you best of how to get out of your situation.

If you choose to end your marriage please don't feel guilty, your husband is being very abusive and it is not only affecting you but your dc are noticing it. When you asked what you should do you put Break my children's hearts? Were you referring to if you left alone then you would break their hearts by leaving them, or if you left with them you would break their hearts by taking them from their dad, or something else?

If the first one the solution would be to leave with them, if the second one then the way to solve that is to remember that them living in this environment is damaging them too so you need to do something to change that. Ultimately they will be hurt more by staying than leaving, if they hurt by leaving then just remember you would be taking them away from more hurt as they will see more of the abuse in the future and understand it more as they grow older. You deserve better than to be with this abuser, your dc deserve better. With a bit of help you can give them better.

You have taken the first step, you have acknowledged there is abuse, and have reached out on MN for advice. Please get real life help to help you get out of this situation and keep posting here for advice and support, there are many people out here who can continue to point you in the right direction. Things like getting your paperwork put in a safe place, e.g. birth certificates, passports etc so your husband can't take control of them. Get some money put aside for your and your dcs use if it will be needed etc.

Thatisme · 08/09/2019 09:53

Thank you for your replies, your words made me think. To answer some of your questions, I am petrified of my situation. Both present and future terrify me. I know he'll snap out of this and we'll move on....until next time. Or maybe this time it will be different, maybe he will stay in the spare room permanently and pretend I don't exist as a human being and he owes me nothing. Either option petrifies me.
When I said that I will break my children's hearts it's because they adore him, especially my son. They'd hate me for this and will never forgive me. At the same time I could never leave them with him as I know he wouldn't be able to look after them properly especially my daughter approaching puberty. He is not a bad person, I never thought he would intentionally cause me any harm but he's emotionally messed up and becomes incapable of compassion and empathy. There doesn't seem to be a solution that won't hurt my children and the lesser evil seems to stay and put up with it.

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gobbynorthernbird · 08/09/2019 10:25

Your children will be relieved to not have to walk on eggshells for fear of upsetting daddy. They are currently feeling the same way that you are about him.

TheMustressMhor · 08/09/2019 20:00

I promise you that the lesser evil is not to stay and put up with it, OP.

The lesser evil is to make a plan to leave your husband and start a new life without him.

I eventually remarried and am very happy now. Looking back, I don't know how I stood it for so long.

My ex has no interest in his children and they are so relieved to be away from him.

Zaphodsotherhead · 08/09/2019 20:20

Your children can still adore him without living with him, OP. And it sounds as though that might be best for all of you. He can be a dad, but without the children having to walk on eggshells - it's just you currently, but what happens when he starts exploding at your DC? You may think it will never happen, but they are growing up, they won't be biddable and easy to manage forever, how will he react when they face up to him?

Let him leave. In fact, make him leave. Doesn't matter how contrite he is in the morning (or at any point in the future), none of you deserve to keep living like this.

Thatisme · 14/09/2019 10:04

One week has past and the situation hasn't improved one bit. He's still "living" in the spare room and despite me trying to talk to him when he'd calmed down he still doesn't take responsibility over his actions, in fact he maintains that there is no point in talking to me. We have unreconcilable differences and if it wasn't because we are financially tied to each other he'd be out. Not even for the kids who he said are another failure of ours. There is absolutely no grounds to both these statements. Being in a marriage require work, being a parent requires even harder work and it looks like this pressure is more than he can take. It's obviously my fault though as it is pretty much my fault about every evil in this world including traffic and pollution. He wouldn't go as far as saying that but he acts and rages at me as if it did. I know I should leave but it is financially impossible for me to do so and have no family. If my kids were not in the picture I'd go but I have to think about their lives, their schools, the unaffordable housing....Separating from my husband is something that goes against everything I've always believed in but he refuses to co-operate. Do you think I can fix this somehow? Is there a way?

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BeBraveAndBeKind · 14/09/2019 10:32

You can't fix him. Only he can take action to do that and it sounds like he's unwilling to.

This situation won't change and the lesson you're teaching your children is that it's okay to put up with being treated like crap.

If he's describing your children as failures, it doesn't matter how much they adore him, they'll never get what they need from him so he may as well leave.

There are some good support threads over on the relationship board that will be able to help you. I can only speak as someone who witnessed behavior like this as a child and I would have lived anywhere to be out of it. With your support and care, your children will get through it.

You deserve better. Good luck Flowers

rockingthelook · 14/09/2019 18:56

sadly I've been in the same situation, it won't get better, you will just become older, sadder and lose yourself, don't wait until you have a physical injury (broken bone), as I did . I wish I could pin point the moment my lovely husband changed into the awful person he became, and change things, I'd love to have the man back who I married, but it was never going to happen. You are actually being abusive (unintentionally, so please forgive my strong words) to your children by letting them witness this behaviour, it causes lasting damage, I know this to be true, my children talk about bad times even now over 10 years later,it broke my heart when I ended my marriage, the feelings of failure, disbelief and sadness were huge, however the other feelings of being relieved, free and the prospect of being happy again were also there. It takes time to get over, but you get there, and believe me, life is good again, my children are older now, they know I didn't really have a choice and support my decision that I made for all of us. It was truly a choice of him or us, I know I made the right one, be brave, you must do this too. Huge hugs op

Thatisme · 15/09/2019 13:28

Thank you for all your replies and support. Could I ask those of you who were in similar situations and
decided to end the marriage how old you were? I know it shouldn't matter in theory but it does in real life. And how old were your children, if you had them? I am 48 and although I don't feel old (and don't look it tbh) I am taking this into account as well. Can you be happy again at my age?
I never thought in all these years that I would have to have these sorts of thoughts about my husband. He's always been my best friend and life companion. Inside I feel I am letting him down but I can no longer help him. My kids are 9 and 11. Old enough to perceive there's a problem but too young to understand it.

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rockingthelook · 15/09/2019 15:19

I was early 40's , children were 5 and 9, yes, they still remember the bad times....as for worrying about being on your own, focus on getting out of the marriage start rebuilding your life a day at a time, make yourself the best'you'', let your heart heal ,stabilise your home and children, the rest will come. There is nothing better than the freedom to be yourself again, I met another partner, but didn't introduce him to my family for 2 years (I know!) I just wanted someone for me, in my own time, not family time, all is calm and happy in all our lives now...the way that it should be, life is literally too short to be endured not lived

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