Can any Doctors shed some light? (Not looking for medical advice; just a q about hospital charting)

[foodloves]

My DM is currently in hospital, she was taken in a few nights ago; the Gap suspected Pancreatitis. The hospital have done an Ultrasound and found no gallstones so they are sending her for an MRI tomorrow as they don't know what's causing it. I'm slightly concerned about cancer, but that's not really my question!

On the clipboard among the paperwork where the obs get recorded there is an A4 sheet that says DIAZEPAM and underneath something about alcohol withdrawal scoring. She scored a 1 once due to high heart rate, but as a tee totaller she scored 0 across the board in everything else for the past 3 days.

What I wanted to know is if this sheet about alcohol withdrawal is normal for a pancreatic admission?

Alcohol excess is one of the commonest causes of pancreatitis. Alcohol screening (and planning for withdrawal symptoms on admission to hospital) is completely normal in the context of an admission for pancreatitis.

As above. And many people lie about their alcohol intake and as a sudden withdrawal is potentially lethal so it is 100% needed.

As other PPs have said, best to have the meds there and monitor for withdrawal as many people lie. Your DM won’t be getting the meds if she’s not scoring so it’s not like she’s been treated inappropriately.

Side note: you’re actually not allowed to go through the end of the bed charts of your relatives as it’s confidential information.

Surely a relative can look if the patient says they can?!

Alcohol excess is one of the commonest causes of pancreatitis. Alcohol screening (and planning for withdrawal symptoms on admission to hospital) is completely normal in the context of an admission for pancreatitis

Thanks, I thought it probably must be.

As other PPs have said, best to have the meds there and monitor for withdrawal as many people lie. Your DM won’t be getting the meds if she’s not scoring so it’s not like she’s been treated inappropriately.

I wasn't asking about medication. I was asking if the chart was standard for pancreatitis patients.

Side note: you’re actually not allowed to go through the end of the bed charts of your relatives as it’s confidential information.

Maybe fuck off.

And many people lie about their alcohol intake and as a sudden withdrawal is potentially lethal so it is 100% needed.

Totally agree it's needed. I just wasn't sure it was a standard that's all.

Foodloves... Pleasant reply to someone who gave you advice and was in no way rude (unlike your reply)

You are joking?

I posted to ask about a chart not to get told off because someone thinks I looked at confidential medical notes. Not sure I remember saying I did that.

My DM is fucking ill, there is a query over cancer (as per my OP) and I am stressed to hell doing 2 trips a day to a hospital that an hour away. I don't need to be told off.

Sorry for being so nippy.

I am drained. I have a disabled husband and 2 autistic children at home. The hospital is an hour away. I'm running back and forward in between school runs. I took offence to being told I should t do something that o haven't even done, by someone who didn't even offer advice, then to be pulled up for responding by someone else who didn't give advice, just got me rattled.

Apologies for my posts.

But please, don't make assumptions that I have done anything wrong here, I'm just asking a small question regarding my precious mothers care.

I don't need berating.

Delightful. Thanks for my insult too... Good luck

Like I said, I'm sorry for that. You however, you only came on to have a go. Why did you do that? Why would you jump on a post by someone who's mother might have cancer and simply have a go? No advice, nothing remotely relevant, just to have a go?

Maybe you should think before you post.

My life is fucking shit enough right now.

They were only pointing out how it works. They did not need that.

Actually I have apologised.

However maybe go back and look. One posted told me about meds, which I wasn't asking; and then had a go at me for reading confidential medical notes, despite me not saying at any point I had done so.

The other one posted simply to have a go and also offered no advice.

OP I'm sorry you had to read the snippy response.

Most health prof will talk you through observation charts and answer questions as long as the patient is happy.

it sounds like a worrying time.

Thank you. I really didn't mean to be so rude to those posters, my whole everything is just on edge just now. Appreciate your reply.

Hope things feel better soon, OP x

Thank you

Am so sorry you are going through this OP

I think the poster who mentioned meds was genuinely trying to be helpful in that part of their post though. The diazepam meds are an integral part of the alcohol scoring sheet, so mentioning them was trying to say something about the scoring sheet imho.

Again, so sorry that you and your DM are going through this right now.

Thank you.

I'm not sure that posting about meds and telling me the hospital haven't acted inappropriately was helpful at all though. I was clear in the OP I was asking about the sheet being normal in pancreatitis patients. I really wasn't suggesting the hospital had done anything inappropriate.

I understand.

I hope you and DM have had an ok night (as much as possible in the circumstances).

I was clear in the OP I was asking about the sheet being normal in pancreatitis patients.

You were, OP. Some posters just love to pile in to demonstrate their superior knowledge and put someone down.