20 days holiday entitlement? Normal? New job

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Is this pretty normal in new job? Or very low and has any negotiated holiday time before accepting a job.
It's for dh and we have young dc so holiday entitlement is crucial.

Yep pretty standard I think. It’s the minimum legal requirement

You'll get the 20 days plus 8 babl hols then (statutory minimum) which is 5.6 weeks for full timers and totally normal I'm afraid.

I think 20 days + bank holidays so 28 days in total is the minimum requirement.
I work term time only but am allocated 28 days pay for what would be holiday if I worked full-time.

bank hols

There was a very similar thread last week, although I think that poster may have been offered 21 days. It’s is low yes, but not at all uncommon.

www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights

All on here - assuming you are in UK.

It should be 20 days plus the 8 days Bank Holidays.

If it's that, it's the minimum entitlement and normal for a new job I think.

For full time the minimum is 28 I think but that can include public holidays or bank holidays. Our staff get 32 but 10 are holidays including closure over Christmas, Easter and bank holidays.

Do you also get bank holidays on top of that? If so then presuming you are full time it's the legal minimum, so not great.

Any options to buy more annual leave, or to take unpaid parental leave (you can take four weeks per child per year)?

It's totally standard for private sector roles. People maximise it by taking bank holiday weeks (five days off for the price of four days of your 20). In some companies it increases a bit the longer you are there.

20 plus bank hols is the legal requirement and many companies just offer it as standard. I went up to 25 plus bank hols in my last role and negotiated it in to my new role as holidays are important to me.

Could your husband use that as a tactic?

Dh will have to cover me where days I work don't tally with school holidays, so he can legally take the odd day un paid for that?

I believe Parental leave can only be taken in blocks of a week not odd days, and employers can refuse to allow it at a requested time for business reasons but have to offer alternative week within a certain time frame.

Not legally entitled to take leave of any kind whenever he likes, no.

Parental leave is a legal entitlement, but has to be taken in full weeks (not odd days), applied for in advance and the employer has to agree when it is taken.

Covering school holidays (known in advance) wouldn’t be a reason for emergency careers leave.

Yes, it's normal plus bank holidays. That's what I get at my job.

You can take unpaid parental leave, I've had to do that on occasion.

did you want a term time only job op?

@holidaysareimportant it totally depends on your husband's employer. My employer will let me take the odd day off unpaid if it's booked in advance. Or some employers offer flexible working so you can take a day off if you make up the hours at other times (e.g. come in an hour early for a fortnight, or something).

You each have a statutory right to unpaid parental leave but it has to be taken in week long blocks so not that helpful if you only want to take the odd day here and there.

I'd like him to ask, but he's also asking for salary increase and he doesn't want to ask for both. He said if they don't do good salary increase he will ask for more days instead?

He can only ask. At the end of the day work and children is a minefield for everyone. I work term time only but am having a nightmare as DS needs orthodontic treatment including regular appointments at hospital and I don't have annual leave to book.

@holidaysareimportant sounds like the annual leave is more important to you as a family right now than the salary increase so maybe he should prioritise that first. Unless he has an idea for using the extra salary for childcare days or something.

Parental leave can only be taken in blocks of weeks. Unless your child has a disability.

Then can also refuse it, if it doesnt work for the business and offer you another week instead.

If you both work can you both take in turns of sharing annual leave on the odd day child care needs covering?

Some employers will allow odd days as unpaid.

My company is standard 20 plus bank holidays. I negotiated 25 plus bank holidays. But the pay and rest of the package was great and didn't need any negotiation.

He can only ask. If they come back with a really good salary offer, they could decide to not negotiate if he then asks for more annual leave. So I would wait until that comes back first.

Legally as others have said it is a total of 28 days but can include bank holidays and indeed any other time if the company shut from 24th December to 3rd January and then last two weeks of July can could use 18 of the 28 days, holidays don't have to be free choice and they can indicate that you have to take holidays in a quiet period and conversely can't take them in a busy period

Some employers will allow you to buy days back. I don't know the correct term, but I know two people who do this.

So they can take (maybe 5?) days additional leave unpaid.

I would ask for 25 plus bank holidays to see. Yes it means more time away from the business but it doesn't directly cost the employer more so it can be a relatively easy thing to negotiate (unless there are others doing the same role with fewer days).

Assuming the 20 days come with BHs on top, it's the legal minimum, and what many employers offer.

Why did he go for a job if neither the pay or the holidays was what he wanted - many places have zero room for negotiation, you get what you're given.