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Should I offer to pay for this?

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namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 12:49

Hi,

I've got a bit of a dilemma and I'm not sure what to do, so thought I'd ask for opinions!

A friend who also happens to live quite close to me asked me to look after their kitten whilst they're away on holiday. No problem. She specifically asked me though to make sure that when I went in I didn't open the internal door until the outside door was shut and vice versa. The internal door is one of these that will only close properly if you sort of pull it and click the handle/catch at just the right time. If you just pull it it doesn't catch and therefore comes open.

When leaving there I was closing the internal door and the handle literally snapped in my hand. Bit of a panic because then I couldn't get it open again but resolved that by putting a clamp type of thing on the handle, then grabbing the back door keys in case it didn't work again.

So my question is, should I offer to pay for the internal door handle that broke? Normally I'm one for if you break it you pay for it - but it wouldn't have broke if I hadn't been doing what they specifically asked me to do, or the chances are it would have broken on them if they hadn't gone away (I wasn't too rough with it or anything - I'm always extra careful with other people's property).

We are absolutely broke (think texts twice a week advising over overdraft limit situation) and because of our wages not going up in the last 8/9 years but the cost of living going up, we have been in a pretty shit situation for some time. We never go out, have things in desperate need of repair/decorating/replacing at home but can't afford to, haven't had a holiday for more than 5 days as a max for years (not getting one at all this year), etc, etc. So if I do offer to pay for it, I genuinely don't even know how to pay for it (I already sacrifice having proper meals multiple times a week and I know my husband wouldn't be willing to eat just a bowl of cereal for dinner to save money). It's really embarrassing too.

So as not to drip feed, the friends we are cat sitting for have form for borrowing things from us and never returning them. Then when we've asked for it back they claim they gave it back/don't have it. Yet recently (just before asking for a favour funnily enough) one of them came round holding a DVD that we had lent them over 10 years beforehand that they adamantly denied having and claimed was their own copy when we asked them having seen it on their shelves (it was a favourite film of mine so was particularly annoyed) saying that they'd found this and realised it was ours. Of course by this point we'd replaced it because they'd told us they had "definitely returned it" before this. So I am wondering if having this in my head is making me think I shouldn't offer.

Also, they are the type of people that would absolutely accept such an offer, even if it realistically wasn't really right for the other party to pay. They themselves have plenty of money (made clear many times over the years by comments about how big the inheritance he received was and the fact that he doesn't even need to work full time), so not as if they are really broke and couldn't afford to pay for a repair themselves.

So what would you do? Should I suck it up and offer and see if I can find something in my house to sell (I can no longer work a second job due to ill health so that's not an option for me anymore)? Or do you think I should just explain what happened, apologise, but stop short of offering to pay for it?

I absolutely 100% genuinely don't think it was in any way my fault, and if it happened in reverse I'd never in a million years expect someone to pay me for it. But I feel really guilty even considering not offering to pay because I did break it.....

Thank you in advance!

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namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 14:03

Came on not cans on 🤦🏻‍♀️

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musicmaiden · 22/08/2019 14:05

Yes, really, don't apologise, there's no need. You are doing them a(nother) favour. I hope they do you nice favours sometimes too, otherwise this friendship sounds very much like a one-way street and should be binned.

Juells · 22/08/2019 14:08

A friend is like that, and when she was facing into something a bit difficult I mentioned to her that an elastic band on her wrist might help - and it really did. She kept her hand up the opposite sleeve, and every time she was about to break down and apologise (for nothing!) she snapped the band on her wrist. It gave her enough of a shock to get past the urge.

It can be very difficult to resist the conditioning to apologise for everything. It allows people to take advantage of you, though, and treat you without respect.

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ElizaPancakes · 22/08/2019 14:12

Honestly you need to knock this friendship on the head, or stop doing favours for them. More than once they’ve taken advantage of your goodwill to not pay you back - and now they’re not even paying you for looking after their cat?!

I wouldn’t offer to pay and if they ask you to, tell them to take it out of the savings they made not putting their car in a cattery.

ElizaPancakes · 22/08/2019 14:13

You will have to be straight and say you can’t afford to replace something in their home that clearly broke because of wear and tear, and that if they want you to pay for it then you want £5 a day for looking after their cat.

It might be the end of the friendship but to be honest it sounds more like they’ve been using you for years.

namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 14:18

@Juells thank you - that sounds like a good idea! I grew up in a pub so it's been ingrained since I was 5 that "the customer is always right" and I take the blame (if you like) to appease a situation. I'm a "people pleaser" and it's hard to put myself first ever.

The friendship is a bit of a strange one. We hardly ever see them, despite living a minutes walk away. There's sort of a whole group of us from when we were all younger (but a mixture of ages) that used to drink together - we now meet up 2/3 times a year. My friend cat sit for us once years ago when my mum wasn't around to feed her for us like she usually did. Other than that, I can't actually remember them ever doing us a favour. We tend to only see them now when they ask for a favour or when it's the bigger group meeting up. We do enjoy their company when we get together and I wouldn't want to fall out with them - I think the grabbyness is him rather than her to be completely honest - but there's just been so many things over the years that it's hard to forget. The best one was seeing on FB a while ago them selling something that looked suspiciously like something we had lent them about 8 years previously and had asked for back as we needed them but they claimed they'd returned them.

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user1493494961 · 22/08/2019 14:19

Don't offer to pay, it wasn't your fault and you're doing them a favour.

namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 14:23

and now they’re not even paying you for looking after their cat?

To be fair, unless it was costing me something (eg I had to drive quite far to go and do it), I'd never ever dream of someone paying me to pop round and feed their cat. I do my mums sometimes who lives just a bit past this friend, my sisters who lives a few roads over and another neighbour who lives at the top of our driveway (they go away loads). We have 2 cats so on the off chance we do manage to get away, it means there's always someone who is able to look after our cars. Plus I love cats so it's nice to sit and have a play with the kitten at the minute! I'm on annual leave this week, home with the kids, so it's not even as if I'm having to get up extra early before work or something.

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namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 14:28

Ok how does this sound as a text:

Hi! Hope you've had a lovely holiday. Kittens fine, had a nice week and I'm sure he's looking forward to you getting home. Just so it's not a surprise when you get back tomorrow, I'm afraid the internal door handle snapped off as I was shutting it a few days ago (guessing it must have been on its way out already as I wasn't doing anything rough with it). Husband's made a makeshift repair so you can open it when you get in, but he'll need the tool back or he'll kill me lol! Sorry you'll have that to deal with when you get home. Ive got your back door key here as well as a result, so I'll drop both keys off when you're back and show you what happened. See you soon x

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yikesanddang · 22/08/2019 14:35

Stop with the apologising for anything.
Hi! Hope you've had a lovely holiday. Kittens fine, had a nice week and I'm sure he's looking forward to you getting home. Just so it's not a surprise when you get back tomorrow, I'm afraid the internal door handle snapped off as I was shutting it a few days ago (guessing it must have been on its way out already as I wasn't doing anything rough with it). Husband's made a makeshift repair so you can open it when you get in, but he'll need the tool back or he'll kill me lol! Sorry you'll have that to deal with when you get home. Ive got your back door key here as well as a result, so I'll drop both keys off when you're back and show you what happened. See you soon x

TheBrockmans · 22/08/2019 14:43

Ive got your back door key here as well as a result, so please return the tool when you pick them up.

ohtheholidays · 22/08/2019 14:43

I'd be looking around for all of the stuff they've nicked borrowed off of you over the years OP and taking it home and then if they do expect you to pay them back tell them to make sure they take off the £10 they owe you and take off the money they made for selling the item that you'd lent them,take of the money you spent replacing the DVD they had of yours and denied and if the worst comes to the worst sell the bits that you've taken back that the CF's had kept Grin

namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 15:10

Thank you everyone. Feeling much better now. Hopefully it won't be an issue and I was worrying about nothing.

I can't bring myself to look around and help myself - any DVD's have long since been replaced anyway. I've forgotten half of what they've borrowed, it was just a few really specific things stuck in my head! Besides, I have the moral high ground over the missing stuff for now!

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RandomMess · 22/08/2019 16:34

Make sure you get that tool back when you drop the keys off!!

FrenchJunebug · 22/08/2019 17:02

I would have deleted the 'I'm afraid' too.

KurriKurri · 22/08/2019 17:10

I had a slightly similar situation - I was staying with friends and broke the handle off the toilet when I flushed it. I offered to pay - and thier attitude was 'definitely not - it was pure accident that it broke whne I happened to press it - it was clearly ready to break and could just as easily have been anyone who broke it.
And I think that is the case with you - clearly if you are having to do weird manoeuvers to get the thing to close, the door handle is a bit dodge anyway and could just as easlily have broken when on eof them was closing it. (Plus you have save them the cost of a cattery so all is quits anyway)

SandAndSea · 22/08/2019 17:18

Don't say 'I'm afraid' or that you will show them what happened. If they're the sort to take advantage (they are) they will read you as soft and open to paying for or doing the repair.

Fewer words is best with people like this.

Remember: even if it was your fault (it wasn't), it's only a handle and they still owe you more than you owe them.

listsandbudgets · 22/08/2019 17:19

I wouldn't expect you to pay for this. It was obviously an accident or just wear and tear. I mean lets face it who goes round breaking their friends door handles just for fun.

By the way pet sitters round here charge £10-13 per visit (so about £280+ for a 2 week holiday if they do morning and evening). You're doing them a huge favour.

namechangedasscared · 22/08/2019 18:48

Thank you for the new responses too! You have all genuinely made me feel so much better. I've been worrying about this since it happened (I have no idea how much these things cost). I am certain my husband would be happy to install a new handle for them if they buy it so they don't have to pay someone to do it, but I didn't want to outrightly say "I'm not paying for it".

I'm definitely someone that likes to keep the peace/take the path of least resistance. I always pay my own way and I'd never take the piss about things like this because I know how hard it can be to have an unexpected cost. But I recognise people take advantage of that too. I've had loads of people take the piss in the past, but I never wanted to let money get in the way of a friendship. Does that make sense? I guess with things being so bad right now I am very self conscious of any additional expense.

Thank you all for not slating me & telling me I'm horrible for not even wanting to offer to pay!

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stayathomer · 22/08/2019 22:19

OP I think youre the least horrible OP to ever grace the screens of MN!!

Sorrysorrysosorry · 25/08/2019 19:56

Please come and let us know how it goes, I bet you can’t wait for it to be over so you can have a good night sleep! BUT you have done nothing wrong you are just (like me) a worrier. Don’t agree to any favours for them in the future.

Nicetablecloth · 25/08/2019 20:05

It was not your fault at all ....

Honestly, do not apologize and do not offer to fix it.

PerkyPomPoms · 26/08/2019 06:28

Please do not apologise

Progress2019 · 26/08/2019 07:50

You’ve had some brilliant advice here.

I totally understand what you were thinking though. I’m the sort of person who apologises even if someone walks into me, but in this instance, you mustn’t.

Be strong!!

Inertia · 26/08/2019 09:08

I bet the handle was already damaged before they left. They knew it was broken/ about to break , and left instructions about doors specifically to be able to pin the blame on you, and make you pay for it. Don't pay for it, even if they ask you to. If they ask for money for the repair, suggest they take it off your cat-sitting bill.

You sound lovely and kind, but you need to stop being a doormat with this people, because they are taking the absolute piss. Stop lending stuff, and stop doing favours- if you have plans, they'll have to find another solution.

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