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MN target audience - judgy twats??

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 21/08/2019 15:37

I joined this site last year primarily to get advice on the menopause. Didn't know where else to go. Since then I've been sucked into other topics.

I honestly thought this was meant to be a nice, supportive place to go for people in need of advice but OMG that's not the case. I'm stunned by the number of people who are judgy and just plain nasty to people they don't know. Who are these people in real life who sit in judgement on others and feel that they have the right to slate them on the internet? I'm guessing they wouldn't say this shit to their own friends/family. Don't get me wrong, I've had some helpful advice. But I've also had some horrendous insults. I wonder what the intent/target audience was when MN was set up. It's very sad that some women treat their peers in this way.

OP posts:
IhateBoswell · 21/08/2019 15:41

Bloody hell, bit harsh. The majority here are decent. Ignore the knobs.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 21/08/2019 15:44

Sorry I didn't mean to say that everyone was like that. It's the nasty ones that stand out I guess.

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maidenover · 21/08/2019 15:46

I recently hid AIBU and the number of knobish posts I now come across has decreased substantially. I’ve actually started to enjoy the site again.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

IhateBoswell · 21/08/2019 15:46

To be fair, the Chat topic seems to receive some of the nasty, blunt answers usually reserved for AIBU these days. The nasty posters aren't worth engaging with.

Fredastaireatemyjamsandwich · 21/08/2019 15:48

It has changed a lot from what it was 10 years ago.

CruellaFeinberg · 21/08/2019 15:49

I'm only here for the deletion message

Surely you could have tagged this on to one of the many many threads where people think mn ers are mean?

This comes up repeatedly, have you considered netmums, I hear they're nicer

NoSauce · 21/08/2019 15:55

Stay off AIBU OP! The site is pretty mellow on the whole apart from that.

What’s been said to you?

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 21/08/2019 15:59

I'm a stepmum. I've been called evil, hard work, accused of not liking my stepkids... The list goes on. And no, I was not the OW.

There's a thread started by another stepmum which is ongoing where she is getting a complete slating for wanting a quiet wedding with her husband and no guests, with a party at home afterwards. Someone said to her 'i hope you never have kids of your own'

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Bezalelle · 21/08/2019 15:59

There is literally a thread like this every two days.

HalloumiGus · 21/08/2019 16:00

The site has evolved a lot over the years. The rise of the professionally offended marked a low point and yes I think generally there have been more nasty twats just 'saying it like it is' along with the god awful stupidity of the 'this is my opinion and I'm entitled to it' (even if it's madness). Just ignore the idiots and find your niche topics. AIBU has always been a viper pit but I hate seeing po-faced derailers on Chat or overly harsh responses in relationships. I wish MNHQ were a bit more robust at slapping the wrists of repeat offenders.

NoSauce · 21/08/2019 16:01

I agree that step mums do seem to get a rough deal on MN. Just below MILs Grin
But honestly if you hide AIBU I bet you’d enjoy it more.

IhateBoswell · 21/08/2019 16:02

There is literally a thread like this every two days

Most threads are re-hashes of threads past- you literally don't have to open the ones you don't want to read.

Belgravian · 21/08/2019 16:56

If you don’t like the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Passthecherrycoke · 21/08/2019 16:58

But.... do you think people honestly spend time on Internet forums to support complete strangers? That’s not very normal behaviour is it? Normal behaviour is to expect to be entertained and enjoy the sound of your own voice. You sound pretty naive. There is no corner of the Internet that’s wholly supportive

Cohle · 21/08/2019 17:06

I always think threads like this accusing mumsnet users of being nasty are pretty unkind themselves, ironically.

If you have a problem with a post then why not respond directly to the poster in question? Starting vague accusatory threads like this isn't particularly pleasant or helpful.

LarryDuff · 21/08/2019 17:20

I like the judgy twats, sometimes it's good to see the harsh but true advice and also to know what people are really thinking. There's a lot of OTT stuff but I just find that funny and settle in for the arguments

UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 21/08/2019 17:21

I'm nice Grin

C8H10N4O2 · 21/08/2019 17:21

MN target audience - judgy twats??

You mean they call people names such as judgy twats?

I have never understood why you would assume that sharing basic biology means someone must think like you or even like you. I also never understand why anyone other than a misogynist would assume that women must be "nice" or anything else based simply on the basis of their sex.

It would take very little reading of a group to understand its make up and the different groupings. AIBU is troll central, individual topics are often very different.

You are also assuming that you know the sex of posters. Its a poorly kept secret but I'm actually Pope Francis.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 21/08/2019 17:25

CherryCoke, been here 13 years and it USED to be supportive (in a non “hon/hun” type way).

It has broadened my horizons substantially, I’ve learned such a lot about all sorts, not just parenting. I like hearing about others’ life experiences, there is plenty to learn from people who have been there/done that and have advice ready to give to help others avoid repeating the same mistakes they did. I have learned not to pigeon hole people, to realise that my experience is not everyone else’s experience, and accordingly I judge others’ behaviour a hell of a lot less than I did in my 20s with little life experience (eg eating habits, or kids’ tantrums). As I get older I am finding it really helpful to read others’ experiences of supporting ageing parents, or dealing with terminal illness and bereavement. It’s an invaluable resource.

But I do wonder whether social media platforms like Twitter are spoiling supportive chat forums. I don’t really use Twitter. I ventured on it a couple of times last year and was completely shocked to see the ignorance and vitriol, some xenophobic, on some people posting about the Alfie Evans case. The short message format seems to be the perfect medium to jump in, call someone an evil baby killing twat, then jump out again. There doesn’t appear to be any comeback for these people as the list of responses gets huge and you’ll always have some idiots or jokers jumping in to support the first poster, just for the lolz to stir it all up.

I think this way of interacting with people has just spread from there so what were once supportive places, such as MN. People almost treat it like a sport, as if we are all bots sending out posts. I’m sure karma will get them eventually and someone will give them a slap in real life or tell them never to contact them again or something.

I’ve warned my two to take Twatter with a massive pinch of salt if they insist on joining it, and when going on other forums to assess carefully the way posts are presented and actually, to ignore most of it as ignorant, prejudiced shite, and take what practical info they can from it.

Problem is, vitriol and prejudice spreads, doesn’t it. So, OP, the more people come on here and read ignorant crap spouted
about step families, the more it becomes ingrained in their psyche as “just what you do” or “just how you behave.” I’m not sure that most people even realise they’re behaving like that. Problem is when you get outnumbered while trying to fight your corner and then it’s like being back in the playground at school.

Sometimes I think it is just better to approach real life friends for advice as at least then you will be told either you have a point, or gently told that maybe you might be in the wrong a little bit. But then not everyone has people they can approach in real life, which is where forums like MN become so potentially useful. Potentially damaging to people feeling fragile though, these days.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/08/2019 17:27

There seem to be loads more fake threads and gaslight tourists these days.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 21/08/2019 17:34

Yes, I agree. More and more I think to myself “you CAN’T actually believe/say that out loud in real life, surely?” and then just assume they’re bored or playing or whatever and from then on ignore everything else they ever post as it’s clearly pish.

CruellaFeinberg · 21/08/2019 17:51

quiet wedding with her husband and no guests, with a party at home afterwards
You did actually read that thread????

The no guests included the grooms bloody children, no wonder she got a well deserved telling off

StealthPolarBear · 21/08/2019 17:56

C8H10N4O2 thank you so much for talking about sex not gender

Ginger1982 · 21/08/2019 18:01

@chocolatesaltyballs22 sorry but the poster on the stepmum wedding thread leaves a lot to be desired. She doesn't come across well at all!

MoaningMinnie1 · 21/08/2019 18:07

You get menopausal advice from your doctor. There may be health care professionals on Mumsnet but generally all you'll get is responses from people who talk about their own experiences and they are not you.

However, you definitely are a real 'Mumsnetter'; I've not come across anyone in real life who says, "Judgy", instead of "Judgemental".

This is no different to any other forum/messageboard. Some people are kind and helpful and others are not.

Don't take it all so seriously. I am eternally grateful that Mumsnet did not exist when I was a young mum! Enjoy it for what it is.

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