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State pension age to increase to 75 WTF??

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mrselizabethdarcy · 18/08/2019 12:03

Just seen this article. I'm so worried about the future.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-raise-state-pension-age-18953679

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howrudeforme · 18/08/2019 17:10

I shop at a local supermarket. Majority of staff look well past retirement age, working as they have to and very tired. So very sad.

I’ve tried my best to view my future and plan but I’m a lone self supporting parent and I have no extra to save. I’m in a job that’s low paid but good pension (or the best that I’ll get at my age) so I cling on for dear life but I doubt they’ll keep me on till retirement age. I think most people are like me or worse off.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/08/2019 17:12

I really don’t think I will live until that age - not looking at the rest of my family. When I started working the retirement age was 60!!

themouldneverbotheredmeanyway · 18/08/2019 17:23

Current NHS pension scheme is tied to the state pension age, so you don't receive it until whatever the state age is then, whatever that may be. I'm not sure if there is a way to start claiming it sooner.

I agree that the current taxpayers can't support 25+ years of comfortable retirement in future, and I'd be happy to work part time in adapted work whilst I'm able to. But many jobs can't be done by your average 70 year old. What then?

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HelenaDove · 18/08/2019 17:58

i can see people covering the illnesses that may come with age and not declaring it to their employer.

When the alternative is unemployment on UC because they cant get their state pension yet what choice is there?

averylongtimeago · 18/08/2019 19:27

It's all very well saying work until you are 70+ - if you work in a nice warm office or shop where you can sit down and don't do much physically.
How is that going to work for trades - scaffolders, brickies, fruit pickers, steel erectors- have any of those advocating this actually tried working on site? Have they picked up one pack of bricks- let alone loaded out an entire house-
Or nurses,care workers and the like?
I think they just don't care. The sooner we all die the better as far as that lot are concerned

Sinuhe · 18/08/2019 19:47

It's all very well saying work until you are 70+ - if you work in a nice warm office or shop where you can sit down and don't do much physically.

I work in an office. I don't think a 70+ year old would be able to keep up! It's not always busy, or fast paced, but at certain times in the week, one has to be very quick thinking with the right reactions. Situations need to be assessed and acted upon. Most people are under 40. A few in senior positions are over. But (this is the issue) they are exceptional experienced and intelligent people. Not your average 70+ year old.

Outsomnia · 18/08/2019 20:26

UK is becoming very harsh towards many people. The lawmakers don't seem to care at all.

In fact there are many in the Lords who are well North of 80 but they can nod off in their plush chairs and get expenses and be fed and watered on their expenses. Courtesy of the taxpayer who may have to work to a similar age according to reports.

UK is really becoming a hegemony. Time to fight back.

RAGE.

ghostofharrenhal · 18/08/2019 20:33

Average life expectancy is 81ish. So if pension age was 75 that would be 6 years of pension for 50+ years worth of contributions.

jennymanara · 18/08/2019 21:00

Local authority pensions are not payable until state pension age.

jennymanara · 18/08/2019 21:05

My parents could not have worked at 75. My dad had early dementia at 75, my mum had crippling arthritis.

jennymanara · 18/08/2019 21:07

@howrudeforme They may not be beyond state pension age. That is 67 for people my age and I get asked fairly regularly by neighbours etc if I have retired yet. I am only in my fifties.

StrumpersPlunkett · 18/08/2019 21:12

The problem is the idea that you can be retired for longer than you worked and payed in.

20-60 = 40 years.
60-100= 40 years.
The maths doesn’t work

Knittedfairies · 18/08/2019 21:17

Its not fake new I read it myself in the Daily Mail this morning.

Brilliant! 🤣😂🤣

ICouldBeSomebodyYouKnow · 18/08/2019 21:23

FIL retired at 60, and got his work pension for 34 years. MIL currently been receiving state pension for 32 years and counting (she's in a nursing home, costing £1K+ per week, so this is the rainy day they saved for).

DH is still working at 64. We both get our state pensions at 66. Can't see either of us enjoying 30+ years on it!!

Really feel for our DC's generation, anyone under 40 basically. The country is fucked.

jennymanara · 18/08/2019 21:23

@strumpers I started full-time work at 16. I am due to retire at 67 - 51 years. Average life expectancy means I am expected to be retired 21 years.

PeterthePainter · 18/08/2019 22:00

It should have been 70 for the past 10 years but no Govt.had the moral courage to do it. The State pension age has never kept pace with increasing lifespan and now it's reached crisis point.

jennymanara · 18/08/2019 22:06

Peoples lifespan is increasing, but the number of years they are ill before they die is also increasing.

QueenOfWinterfell · 18/08/2019 22:16

But how many employers will be willing to employ people in their 60s and 70s? Not many, I’m sure.

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/08/2019 22:40

One of the reasons I retired from teaching at 60 was that they were starting to bully older teachers into leaving so they could be replaced by younger, cheaper teachers. It's a common story so I can't imagine many teachers continuing into their 70s unless they're prepared to take a pay cut.

Babyroobs · 18/08/2019 23:16

I've recently changed my career from Nursing to a job where I can sit down and is mostly advising. I'm in my early fifties but thought it better to switch to a job that I know I will be able to continue in hopefully as long as possible. I was struggling to cope with twelve hour nightshifts and the physical demands of the job.

guidosgym · 18/08/2019 23:27

Stop saying coffers.

HelenaDove · 18/08/2019 23:31

A young employee who they can pay less or someone over 60 Which do we think the employer will choose?

jennymanara · 18/08/2019 23:44

Or even an employee over 70. What chance does the ordinary 70 year old have of getting a full-time job if they are unemployed?

Lumene · 18/08/2019 23:48

It’s a suggestion by a think tank NOT an actual plan by anyone with power to do it.

Butterymuffin · 18/08/2019 23:50

, we can maybe make semi-retirement work in more jobs.

I'm hoping I will be able to do this and work part time in my later years once the mortgage is paid off. But it won't be viable for everyone.

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