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Thomas cook. Chances of us sitting together on flight?

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Helpies · 12/08/2019 22:49

DH and I. 4 sprogs. 2 over 12. 2 under 12. (all over 7)

Keep being told by family not to waste £120 on prebooked flights (money is super tight) as everyone else has always been seated together.
They go away regularly and have never been split.
It's our first time and kids are nervous.

Would you pay?

OP posts:
NameChangetoavoidendlessquesti · 13/08/2019 15:40

To the poster who said "if not just pay at the airport"

Pay for what? If a Check in agent tells you there are no seats together left on the flight there aren't any. You can't pay for seats that don't exist. We don't the magically find some seats together just because suddenly you want to pay.

The only seats payable at the airport are Emergency Exit seats if they've not been pre booked. These seats can only be sat in by people who confirm they are "Fully fit"and able bodied and comply with other questions". Children cannot sit in these seats although the age restriction will vary from airline to airline and between aircraft type. The youngest on certain aircraft with some airlines is age 12 but can be upto age 16 with others.

As explained before, we won't move pax that have pre paid and booked in advance. So sitting a whole family together who've not booked is unlikely in peak season. You could ultimately end up with 1 parent sat next to 1 or more younger children, but next to can include different rows with a parent sat behind or infront of a child or even infont if 1 child and behind the other. We try for better but pax who pre pay to book are also valued customers we want to keep happy and respect thier booking. We really do try our best. I get no satisfaction from splitting families up but sometimes, well often, it actually is our only option.

Moving pre paid pax is an absolute last resort and will only usually be a free upgrade to the emergency exit as a way of saying thank you for thier inconvenience and I suppose a sweetener to encourage them to move. However, we can only do this if the seats are still available. They usually get booked up early when people pre book thier seats. Also children, elderly or pax that are not fully fit cannot sit there by law and in peak summer it's not always possible to find suitable people to move there as most families want to sit together.

I'm with most people in that I personally hate the booking seats thing as I'm a mum who travels with kids but if the reality of worst case being sat directly behind/infront of your young child is not something you are comfortable with, then just play the game and pay up in advance.
Ground staff are responsible for seating. Cabin crew are under no obligation to sort seating issues other than for safety reasons and cabin seat changes before take off cause all kind issues including delays, especially those done without cabin crew being informed.

Hope this helps explain a little how it works and how we do actually try our best to help everyone. There are other factors we work with too such as people with disabilities, infant oxygen masks etc. There a lots to consider when seating everyone.

orangeshoebox · 13/08/2019 15:51

ryanair has the best solution imo.
you have to chose your seats when booking with small children and only pay a seat booking fee for the adults.

Tatapie · 13/08/2019 15:55

I flew TC recently and left it too late to buy seats. I phoned and questioned and was told I would be seated together with my husband on online check in ( open only 24 hrs before) as we were on the one booking. This is what happened. Glad I didn't waste ££ choosing seats. Suggest you are on it the minute check in opens!

GreenTulips · 13/08/2019 16:04

I've seen cabin crew ask for volunteers for a kid who was 7yo and nobody volunteered. So child had to sit next to 2 strangers and was hysterical

So those that bagged and paid for the seats weren’t impressed with a hysterical child?

Teddybear45 · 13/08/2019 16:15

@GreenTulips - Parents who genuinely cared about their child wouldn’t book a holiday where they couldn’t either afford or be arsed to book seats.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 13/08/2019 16:17

I'm a single mum of one DS (age 6) and I never pre book, we were separated on a recent Jet2 flight but only by one row.

DS is a confident flyer though despite his age (we have been going abroad 2 or 3 times a year since he was 2) so as long as he has snacks and his tablet he's happy!

GreenTulips · 13/08/2019 16:18

Parents who genuinely cared about their child wouldn’t book a holiday where they couldn’t either afford or be arsed to book seats

Do you work for an airline or social services?

GetTheStartyParted · 13/08/2019 16:23

We travelled in a group of 9 a couple of years ago and didn't pay for seats together. 2 sets of parents and the youngest child was 9. On the flight out we were all sat together.

On the flight back we had 2 pairs and 5 separate seats. Sat the youngest and the most nervous with adults and then the rest of us sat elsewhere. This worked for us but for first time flyers or nervous travellers I don't think I would risk it.

(I loved sitting in a separate seat on the way home Grin )

Propertyofhood · 13/08/2019 16:26

Parents who genuinely cared about their child wouldn’t book a holiday where they couldn’t either afford or be arsed to book seats

😂

Oh well, my poor children have no hope then, because I've never paid to pre-book seats!

EskewedBeef · 13/08/2019 16:34

Parents who genuinely cared about their child wouldn’t book a holiday where they couldn’t either afford or be arsed to book seats.

Now now, I'm quite fond of my kids.

gingercat02 · 13/08/2019 16:39

I never ever pay for seats (apart from Ryanair as you have to) and we are always seated together. It a rip off

lovelyupnorth · 13/08/2019 16:59

Never paid. Never will. Not fused I’d get to sit next to family or not. They’re all old enough and ugly enough to look after themselves.

Saying that when flew with Thomas Cook to Barbados we where all seated together. Same with WestJet and Air Canada.

Only time been separated is going to Belfast and Portugal - which I got 1B and OH got the wing so both got extra leg room no charge and short.

I love using the Lowcost carriers and love the way easyJet and RyanAir have changed the way we can all fly and reduced the cost.

ineedaholidaynow · 13/08/2019 17:07

But some budget air fares are so cheap but that is because you aren’t getting any extras.

I am sure air fares are relatively cheaper than the air fares my parents would have paid in the 70/80s when we first went abroad. But those air fares included being seated together, luggage in the hold and food. You could argue they were a rip off for people who didn’t need those ‘extras’.

I think we forget how cheap flying as a form of transport can be. My SIL regularly flies to France/Spain to see friends. That just wouldn’t have happened before the advent of budget airlines. Her air fares are cheaper than the train ticket for when she comes to see us in a different part of the UK.

I think people want the cheap air fares but with all the ‘extras’ thrown in.

lovelyupnorth · 13/08/2019 17:38

You also forget the Saturday night stay rule. Which meant to get a cheap fair in a carrier like BA you had to include a Saturday night.

I love the fact that some of the big carriers are now cutting out the extras. So when flying to Canada this summer we saved £90 each by not having a bag in the hold.

Fsid00 · 13/08/2019 17:47

@NameChangetoavoidendlessquesti

I said 'maybe' pay at the airport. I am not an expert. Calm your jets!

tigger001 · 13/08/2019 18:58

I think it’s ridiculous that airlines use this as yet another opportunity to screw money out of people

That may well be the case, but it is the case, so if your travelling with children need accompanying by a parent either

Don't fly if you don't like the idea of paying or can't afford it
Pay the money to ensure your children aren't needlessly distressed on the flight due to their selfish parents.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 13/08/2019 19:22

@tigger001 not all children get distressed on flights though. Mine doesn't.

AuntyMarysBigRedPants · 13/08/2019 19:33

We got on a flight this year and a family got on, with 2 young children and couldn't sit together or 2 & 2. They had to put about 4 calls out asking if people would move. The mother was distraught

EmpressJewel · 13/08/2019 19:36

I have always paid for us to sit together. On TC flights, we do 2 x 2 across a row, with the children sitting by the window, a parent in the middle and a random stranger on the aisle.

We begrudge paying, but we do, because it's the only way we can guarantee that me or OH will be next to the children.

Tigger001 · 13/08/2019 19:40

waxonwaxoff then my comments aren't aimed at you, it is for people who's children who need to be accompanied by an adult.

BritInUS1 · 13/08/2019 19:40

It's part of the cost of the flight - it's just the same as paying extra for excess baggage, etc. The airlines advertise it without to make them look cheaper !

QueenOfPain · 13/08/2019 19:43

How many times are we gonna rehash this same dilemma?

You need to pay if you wanna sit all together. Otherwise your 12 year old could get seated at the opposite end of the plane with one of the babies or some other random combination.

CamdenTownie · 13/08/2019 20:20

Last year we flew to Mexico -
I paid for seats together but there were quite a few families sitting across aisle seats or one in front of the other, my ds2. Who was 15 was sat next to a child of about 8 on the way back. His mum was sat across the aisle.

TapasForTwo · 13/08/2019 20:38

“But neither would I be the arsehole that handed £120 to an airline when you are likely to be allocated seats together at check in.”

Which @cccameron, unfortunately, these days is vanishingly unlikely.

@youarenotkiddingme I’m glad that they listened to your concerns. DD is 19 and doesn’t need me next to her on a flight. It is a last minute holiday and most of the seats on the flight have already been pre-booked. I think there were about 8 seats left. I could have waited until all the seats were booked then we would have been allocated extra legroom seats, but I just wanted us to get checked in. I really rate Jet2. This will be our fourth holiday with them.

I think yours is an excellent plan @exLtEveDallas

youarenotkiddingme · 13/08/2019 21:12

I love how it's the parents who get blamed for their children being sat away from the adults.

Before this booked seat malarkey airlines managed to sit people together - and they still can.

They can actually place people in party groups quite easily. The fact they don't is choice! And yes, I believe it's punishment because people didn't pay.

They need to find a way out of this £25 flight but £100 for extras stuff. Start marketing flights at £125 and worth that and that that's value for money.

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