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Band 3 promoted to band 6 - is this unusual?

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Rapidmama · 12/08/2019 18:12

Ive never come across it before. Relatively new person, band 3 post for a year and has now been promoted to a band 6 manager role.

No degree or previous experience.

Is it that unusual? Non-clinical obviously

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GoGoGoGoGo · 12/08/2019 18:14

What’s the job? How are they qualified to do a band 6 role?

Did they use to be a 6?

It’s not something I’ve heard of before. That’s quite a big jump.

Singinginshower · 12/08/2019 18:14

Well it's obviously unusual, but they must have met the job spec presumably.

GoGoGoGoGo · 12/08/2019 18:15

If they didn’t meet the person spec they wouldn’t have got an interview.

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Rapidmama · 12/08/2019 18:20

Never worked for the NHS before. Band 6 has degree under “essential” but they don’t have one (not that unusual as I know they will take experience too).

Shortlisting went to this persons manager who put them up for the job.

There are rumblings amongst other staff. To be fair to her, she is very good at her job, very dynamic and clearly not a “band 3 for life”, just seems like a big jump and not one I’ve seen before in 10 years of NHS work

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GoGoGoGoGo · 12/08/2019 18:23

So basically the manager wanted them for the job.

A lot of NHS job specs say degree or working towards. Even in the NHS people get moved to jobs because the face fits.

They’re not clinical I assume.

ProfessorofPerspective · 12/08/2019 18:23

A relative of mind is a 6 and just been interviewed for an 8a. Waiting to hear!

Butterfly44 · 12/08/2019 18:24

It's usually degree or equivalent experience as an essential. But even if they scored zero if they score high on the other spec they would get shortlisted. Then it's down to how good they performed in interview. Which obviously went well.

IfIShouldFallFromGraceWithGod · 12/08/2019 18:25

It wouldn't happen in the trust I work for. B5 and above need a professional qualification

TheWildAndTheCurious · 12/08/2019 18:25

I work clinically for the nhs so not as familiar with non clinical side of things. There are a lot of hoops to jump through with the nhs and if a degree is essential for the role and stated so in the advert it is very uncommon they would employ someone without one. It's very unusual that there is that much progression from a band 3 in a clinical role but again I'm not that hot on non clinical roles.

Boyskeepswinging · 12/08/2019 18:26

I was promoted rapidly when I started in my current sector and a few eyebrows were raised. But along with hard work and a positive attitude I also had senior experience in other industries to draw on. Maybe this is a similar situation?

Butterfly44 · 12/08/2019 18:28

The scores for the criteria are added together and the highest usually shortlisted. It's possible to not score on the degree but meet all the other criteria. I appointed someone recently on that basis and they got the job

NoBaggyPants · 12/08/2019 18:28

Not common, but not that unusual either. It's not unusual for a capable candidate to apply for a band 3 or 4 as a foot in the door, knowing that it's easier to progress from within.

I joined the NHS as a band 6, but knew many on lower bands that were capable of working at that level.

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Rapidmama · 12/08/2019 18:29

6 to 7/8 isn’t that unusual I don’t think.

3 to 6 was a surprise. I’ve got no skin in the game, I’ve always found her very hard working and efficient, definitely “a face that fits”

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EachandEveryone · 12/08/2019 18:29

The NHS is full of this. If your face fits, you’re in. If you are posh English even mite so. Ive spent 20 years watching jnrs being propelled to the top be cause consultants have liked them.

winterinmadeira · 12/08/2019 18:34

In my experience a 3 to a 6 is a big jump and unusual . However if the recruiting manager was their line manager and wanted them ... then these things can happen. .

amusedbush · 12/08/2019 19:31

I work in a university with similar pay bands. I know one person who jumped from a grade 4 to a 6 and another who has gone from a 3 to a 5 in less than a year, but 3 to a 6 just wouldn’t happen.

I’m a 5 and have been trying for a year to get a promoted post. I’ve had ten(!) interviews in the HE sector for grade 6s and 7s but it’s very much ‘if your face fits’. It sounds like the NHS is the same.

TravellingSpoon · 12/08/2019 19:43

In a previous life I worked in NHS admin.

Job spec stated I needed RSA 2 which I thought was outdated so I applied and got an interview and a job offer. Asked to provide RSA which I didn't have. Job offer revoked and job readvertised with RSA or relevant experience. Had to be interviewed again for fairness. It was about 3 months from first interview to start date.

So in my experience they are very firm about essentials.

bobstersmum · 12/08/2019 20:02

Have they actually got the job or just acting up?

KitKat1985 · 12/08/2019 20:08

Unusual in my experience. In the Trust I work in, people usually only go up one band at a time unless they've gone and done a degree or professional qualification in the meantime.

HotChocolateLover · 12/08/2019 20:45

Not common but I can see how it may happen if someone went into a trust at a lower band than they are ‘worth’ just so they can apply for higher banded internal roles. When I got my band 5, the person who got my old band 4 went from 2-4 which is quite a big leap.

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Rapidmama · 12/08/2019 21:40

Got the job not acting up

Band 6 development post, so potentially a band 7 in the future

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VioletCharlotte · 12/08/2019 21:43

It's unusual, but not unheard of. It really depends on the job. Our band 3 went to a band 5 and within 3 months was successful in applying for a band 6 role in our team. The manager clearly thinks she's capable of doing the job.

BettaSplenden · 12/08/2019 21:46

Band 3 to 6 is huge and a bit suss tbh

SauvignonBlanche · 12/08/2019 21:50

Very odd, especially if they don’t have a degree Hmm

Auntpetunia2015 · 12/08/2019 21:55

Surely it depends on relevant experience. Many moons ago I was a band 6 but I’ve had kids and worked in schools and part time since. I’m currently applying for jobs many at band 3 but if a 6 came up I would hope to get an interview as I have more than enough experience for most band 6 jobs. Maybe that’s the case here doesn’t it usually say prefer a degree or experience.