Has anyone had kinesiology allergy tests?

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DD is intolerant to dairy and, we think, has developed an intolerance to something else, but we can't figure out what!

A couple of people have recommended we see a kinesiologist - DH is very skeptical. Anyone had them and they've been worthwhile?

Had them done. Total waste of money. Later read more into it (this was a long time ago), they’re not evidence based practice at all. No real research to say it works. You’d be better off asking for the GP to refer you to a proper doctor who is an expert IMOS

IMO. (Accidentally pressed S instead of a full stop!).

This is the thing where they put a vial of something in your hand and move your arm up and down, yes?

Seems like total bullshit to me.

Why not get proper tests done by a proper medical allergy expert? If you can pay a snake oils salesman you could pay to go private if you don t want to wait.

DH did it and it's making a big difference.
He's given up the usual culprits of sugar, dairy, caffeine and wheat and his allergies have disappeared and he has much more energy.
However, it's also possible to do it yourself by following an exclusion diet and then gradually introducing things back to see what you react to.
Nutritionist Zoe Harcombe explains how in her book stop counting calories and start losing weight (ignore the weight loss stuff if you're not looking to lose weight).
Or just Google exclusion diet for allergies.

We've had the full set of blood allergy tests done, still waiting for the results, could be another 2 weeks.

Yes I think it is arm wafting @Propertyofhood I'd never heard of it before - seemed a bit of a coincidence that 2 unconnected people recommended it. Wondered if there was something in it.

Several unconnected people on here have said it’s rubbish- how can that be a coincidence!

That's interesting @Firebreathingwoman - we were hoping to shortcut the elimination diet - DD is only 6 so it's rather tricky

@BertrandRussell valid point!

I think with a 6 yr old I'd try to see an NHS dietitian. We have a baby in the family with a lot of allergies and the hospital has been really helpful with that.

We’re waiting for a referral - even though we’ve gone private

Grasping at straws now I know!

With such a small child you need to stick to proper doctors, honestly. Don’t do elimination diets off your own bat.

Nutritionist Zoe Harcombe explains how in her book

, starting about 3.52.

I know there are a load of snake oil salespeople around, but I'm at a loss to know why we have this explosion in allergies and intolerances. It's hard to know who can really help.

It's BS. The blood test are very good nowadays, just wait for the results before you do anything else.

It's hard to know who can really help.

Doctors. It’s doctors you want when it comes to medical issues.

“It's hard to know who can really help.”
Doctors can. That’s what they are there for.

I had it done twice, by two different people, and ended up with two completely different sets of results. Both sets claimed that I was allergic/intolerant to foods I had never had any problems with whatsoever. Wouldn't set any store by it at all, sorry.

A relative of mine goes to one regularly and swears by it, the last appointment she told her that every organ in her body was stressed, but she 'reset' them by waving a wand thing over her stomach . This woman charges £45 per hour, talking bs to people sounds like a very tempting (lucrative) career change to me!

Doctors might help, agreed.
They didn't help DH after multiple visits.
Seeing a kinesiologist, changing his diet and taking supplements did the trick. I'm not convinced the method's not BS either, but that's our experience.

@Firebreathingwoman - he gave up sugar, dairy, caffeine and wheat. Most-if not all- of us would feel better if we did that!

SiL is convinced by the kinesiologist who she consulted about her daughter's problems (which seem to be occasional vague tiredness in a pre-teen).

She introduces most subjects with, "Speaking as an engineer/scientist/mathematician..." (she's a chemical engineer) but seems to have suspended all her scientific and/or critical faculties when it comes to this.

Her account of the session, summarised, comes to:

Daughter had to hold her arms out.
Practitioner pushed on her arms and said right one was weak (ie resisted less).
Then wondered, out loud, in SiL's and daughter's earshot, if it was selenium deficiency.
Gave daughter selenium and told her that should help.
Pushed on outstretched arms 10 minutes later. Said that her right arm was now stronger.
Repeat for various other supplements.
Sold supplements to SiL for healthy* amount of money.

Not a double blind trial so maybe not quite gold standard. Placebo effect/willingness of a child to please/ charlatanism...

No. Couldn't be. SiL knows this.
(She also knows a great deal about medicine that actual doctors in the family don't know.)
I realise that's only one experience.
Funnily enough, I haven't a personal experience of my own.

I do have a nice bag that cost the same as all the supplements SiL bought.
And could have still had a slightly less nice bag had I gone to Boots and purchased the supplements from them instead.

*IMO, the only part of the session that did pertain to health.

Alternative medicine is brilliant for “vague tiredness”! It’s also excellent for “slight headaches” and for “general feeling of malaise” It’s very good for “unspecified but time limited mild illness” as well.....

These allergy people always say the same things as well - 'yes, it's coming up that you need to cut out dairy, gluten, oh and strawberries. That's £150 please.'

My friend took her 8 year old DS to one of these people, I think it was to do 'Vega' testing, which is where they hook you up to an electrical current thing and then put vials containing different things in the complete the circuit and apparently can tell what you are allergic to from that! I wouldnt mind, but my friend is a fucking scientist, that's her job!

Absolute waste of money. my grandma paid for me to have one 20 years ago. said I was allergic to random shit, turns out I actually have IBD. The best way to find out is an elimination diet.