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Did you move from the city to the countryside, have a complete lifestyle/career change, and make a success or disaster of it?

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IndieRar · 09/08/2019 13:28

DH and I are seriously considering cashing in our chips and moving to the country to start a business together, something in the tourism industry. Probably in the next 2-4 or so years so very early stages. Only dependants are DS who’s nearly 3 and the dog. Could both go freelance consultant (us, not the dependants) but want a complete change really.

So I thought I’d ask the wise women of Mumsnet who might have done similar how you made it a success or why you maybe hated it? What did you do? Thanks.

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Lyricallie · 09/08/2019 14:04

I’m from Glasgow, moved to London when I graduated uni and worked there for 3 years. I’m a huge city person but then I moved to the highlands of Scotland. It is very very different. I’m in a new career and I am now earning double what I was in London after being on a training programme for 2 years. Rent is pretty cheap but we plan on buying after our wedding next year in the area. Nice semi detached houses are about 80-100k. We have made good friends and we do hobbies such as kayaking and volunteering and spending time at the beach we would never have been able to do.

Downsides are we have one clothes shop a 30 minute drive - new look and the choice is Tesco or Lidl.

It’s a 6 hour drive to Glasgow and the closest airport/city is 2.5 hour drive. However you do get used to it pretty quickly you just have to account for using up more annual leave (although the company gives us more to account for this). I do miss my friends and family but I try to visit every couple of months and with what’s app I don’t really feel that far away.

We don’t have kids currently but if I was to I think I would move back to Glasgow to be with family as I think we would need the support and my fiancé grew up in different countries and doesn’t know his extended family which I find quite sad as I’m close to my aunties and cousins.

IndieRar · 09/08/2019 19:34

Sounds like a mixed blessing but right for you right now.

Our families already live all over the country so I don't think it'll be different if we lived more rurally in that respect.

Love the idea of kayaking after work! You must both have outdoorsy jobs too I guess.

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IndieRar · 09/08/2019 19:35

Due to my huge title, the end is supposed to read '... and make a success/disaster of it?'

I don't post very often evidently!

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QueenVictorious · 09/08/2019 20:02

Hi Op, i did, 10 yrs ago.

Moved to a county 73 miles north of London,from London. Me, DH and young Dc's. It has been a disaster for us from the start. We live in a picturesque village and on the face of it it looks beautiful and idyllic. If you came to my house now you would think i am living the
dream. 4 bed detached, multiple drawing rooms,
sprawling lawn, big gates to property, thatched properties all around,the smell of fresh horse shite outside and horses being ridden on the path outside. But, i am currently sitting here ,in my large magnificent farmhouse kitchen , writing this alone while nursing a generous G&T. A G&T that i nurse most nights. My reality being that i have not seen a grown up since 22nd July. The real
reality is that while i have thrown myself into everything the last 10yrs i have lived here, nothing comes back. Dont get me wrong, people are pleasant. Exchange greetings when you see them but thats it. I have been used an awful lot, all the bum jobs at the village hall, PTA stuff that no one wants to do and of course all the unpaid childcare playdates i accommodated. I tried , believe me i tried ..i joined PTA, helped out at all sch events, joined village WI, did open gardens, had coffee mornings at my house, lunches at my house, dinners at my house, walking clubs, halloween events at my house , xmas events at my house , easter events at my house , royal wedding events at my house, spent a fortune, but i still failed . Everyone came, accepted my hospitality and then went home. Never reciprocated.
All in a vain attempt to make friends and connections.
I have burnt myself out hosting things, organising, filling time and travelling miles to find something interesting to do.

We were away last week for 7 days and dreaded coming home. I am so thank full i have a job now, a term time role and i am counting the sleeps until term starts again and i can go back to work and be around people. Apart from my DC’s i have had no grown up interaction at all this summer. Thats not unusual, thats what living here is like. However, i have watched all my neighbours and sch mums socialise with each other.

No one calls, no one texts, no one visits. I am sat here , having given the kids a busy week, nursing a G&T on my own, having not spoken to an adult since term ended on 22nd July.

Rural people don't tend to move , so i have discovered, so they have all the family and friends around them they need. I am surplus , there also seems to be a underlying resentment to people who move here from the south as locals feel “priced “ out and “invaded” . Perhaps thats why i am ignored. I’m a southerner! They forget of course that i too was priced out of my home town and left everything i and my family held dear behind us to start a new and better life.

My children hate it here especially now they are late teens: Here are a few of their daily gripes:

"Wifi poor"
“ no phone signal”
"No public transport"
"Its boring" " there is nothing to do"
" its stuffy here, feel closed in"
" wish we were in London or near the sea"
“We are miles away from anywhere good”
“There is nothing to do”
“No, we don’t want to walk across fields again filled with sheep shite”
“Everyone is horrible, our old neighbours played football with us and gave us sweets”
“Our old neighbours let us feed their fish”
“ our old neighbours made us hot chocolate”
“ mum, we had a power cut this eve and no one came to see us” ( our elderly neighbours in London always came to me and the DC’s in a power cut to see we were ok with their black out kits)

When we lived in London and it snowed, all the local men would come out and clear the snow from the paths of mums with kids and the elderly. I shovel my own snow now and i’m 50. During the beast from the east we were left to our own devices. My DC’s helped me and thankfully i had a freezer full of milk, bread and foods. The village tractor came out to get supplies for others but not us. Luckily i had monitored forecasts and stocked up a plenty. There are many strapping men in this village..the paths and roads stay blocked ! The council is also bankrupt so they do nothing either. My DC’s and I clear our own paths..physically and metaphorically!

This ultimately strained my relationship with my DH and we separated early 2018 as a result. I blamed my DH for us being here and he now finally admits that. It is solely his fault we are here. He was not ambitious or energetic and as a result we moved here, to an area that suited him and provided him with the least inconvenience, less travel, least effort for him and ultimately not what was best for me, the DC’s and us as a family. We wanted to move to the coast. My ex DH admits that we ended up here because it was what was easy for him. We had to leave to London and the Midlands suited HIM the best. It was all about him and never about us, me and the children. ExDh then refused to put himself out there once here, to make friends, join clubs, societies, be involved in village life etc as he had workmates and all the social interaction he needed and not here during the day. He did not care or need new people. Plus he spent all his free time watching football so he was happy. This was just a house, four walls , somewhere where his family lived and the washing was done and we all slept safely. As a result it fell to me to make the new connections and new friendships. I failed.
I could not do this on my own. My DH had his work and uni mates and that was that. We could have been living on Mars for all he noticed because it did not affect him one bit.

Fast forward 8 yrs and i decided xmas 2017 that 2018 was the year that my DC’s and I decide our own futures and where we live. We would be in charge and decide the quality of our lives and not my now exDH, and thats what my DC’s and i have done! We are going to move but youngest DC has 2 more yrs left of sch. We have to wait 2 more yrs and then we leave here.

Just when i thought the DC’s and i had this this all sussed and we were moving forward we had the most terrible personal year of our lives in 2018, culminating in the passing of my father. As a direct result of living here and the lack of friendship from those living around us and at sch, the DC’s and i had absolutely no choice but to cope totally alone. When i say alone, i mean totally and utterly alone, no one, nada, nobody, all by myself, me myself and I! All my neighbours in the village and all the sch mum friend mums and the DC’s friends families knew what a tough time we were having but NO ONE came to see us.,NO ONE ! In fact they went out of their way to avoid us. This is when i realised l we had no one to call on here.

My eldest son has now completed his degree and has moved back to London. He is forging his new life and we are so proud of him. Leaving me and my youngest DC here in the miserable midlands. We too have now decided to leave, there is nothing here for us. We arrived as a family of four and now leave 10 yrs to the day as a family of 2, broken. The boundaries of what we will accept have been pushed to their limits and tested here. I personally found new limits as did my DC. We personally hate this county and are very quietly exiting it, we are going back home, down South, where we should have stayed. Just like everyone advised us to 10 yrs ago. We leave here now as a family of 2.

Op, if you move away you need to make sure that yr DP is fully on board. You need to take into account the needs of you and your children as well , not as they are now but when they are older. Ultimately YOU need to make sure YOU are happy so that YOU flourish and feel satisfied in this world. Your DH needs to be on board and do his bit also to help integrate you all into your new community. If you are not happy, your family will not be happy.

Choose your new location wisely OP. Find a kind and welcoming community to support you and yr family in this world when times get tough. When times are good all seems bright, when times are bleak thats when you realise you need people. Its when those people are not there you realise how alone you are. Find a community that will support you if you move away.

All the very best to you OP. 💐

Nearlyalmost50 · 09/08/2019 20:10

I think it depends where you live, and what business you are going to do. If you mean Air B and B, whilst it sounds fun renting stuff out and going to the beach the rest of the time, my friends who have done it have found it restricts their own holiday time (as they have to be there, peak season) and there is a whole lot of cleaning. If it's more adventuresome, might be a tad more interesting. Remember you don't have to live in the middle of nowhere- there are towns and even cities in the beautiful parts of the country, so you may not need or want to be very isolated.

gottagetbetter7 · 09/08/2019 20:17

Spent 7 years in the country, absolutely awful experience, never again. Happy again living 1 mile from a small but vibrant city (and DCs happy too).

IndieRar · 09/08/2019 20:26

Oh god @QueenVictorious that sounds horrendous. I'm so sorry you've wasted so much time there. Thanks for taking the time to give the warts and all version. Can you not move much sooner? Even with two years of school left.

You're totally right though in that it needs to be something both of us want and offers a good future for DS.

I'm very involved in the WI and am surprised you were not made to feel welcome there. One of our resolutions this year is to raise awareness of loneliness and isolation, plus campaigning for better rural bus services. I'm sorry your experience wasn't better. But not speaking to an adult for the entire summer holidays, that must be really really tough. Can you visit friends in London for more of it?

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IndieRar · 09/08/2019 20:29

@Nearlyalmost50 yes I was hoping somewhere within max half an hour of a town and a train station. And a pub and shop within walking distance.

Had thought about the seasonality of tourism work and I do think that's a major drawback. But that would be the same anywhere. And I chuffing hate changing beds so AirBnB definitely not for me!

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Geraniumpink · 09/08/2019 20:34

I’ve lived in the suburbs, in small towns and now in a village and prefer the edge of town living the best - our village is ok - there’s a shop and post office. But my teen finds it boring. Luckily we are fairly near cities. Village living is a bit of a test of character- lovely for small children- But wouldn’t do it again.

lovelyupnorth · 09/08/2019 20:43

We live in the middle of nowhere and love it.

Have the fastest broadband in the country and great community. But do hate any of that their London set coming so can understand some issues.

QueenVictorious · 09/08/2019 20:47

@IndieRar no, cant leave sooner, my younger DC needs to finish education and is in critical yrs.

"I'm very involved in the WI and am surprised you were not made to feel welcome there"

You have no idea then Op of what it is like living in a rural village where families can trace their ancestry back in the church records dating back 1000 yrs and have relatives buried in local grave yard going back 200 yrs!

One of our resolutions this year is to raise awareness of loneliness and isolation, plus campaigning for better rural bus services"

You have also no idea of what it is to like to live in a rural village of a bankrupt county. How exactly would you fund public transport in a village of less than 600 people? We would love to hear to your proposals!

IndieRar · 09/08/2019 20:55

@QueenVictorious I used to live in a small village in the midlands which was why I first joined them. It was very traditional and I was the youngest by 50 years but they were all lovely to me and made me feel welcome. Then when I moved to the city I joined another group. It sounds like you were just very unlucky with where you ended up and it wasn't at all your fault.

But you're right, I've no idea what they can actually do to make a change with the current resolutions. Especially places like where I expect you are.

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QueenVictorious · 09/08/2019 21:33

@IndieRar eh? Resolutions? What?

So , Op , if you have previously lived in the Midlands and everyone was so lovely to you why did you move away? I am assuming you are a native Midlander? If not pls tell me where you lived yr childhood. Will help put into context if you are not a native midlander and were treated well. Helps doesn't it for people to like you ? If you are born and bred somewhere i mean. Everyone in London loves me too. Because thats where i was born and raised , grew up and i know everyone. Everyone i know in London is lovely to me because thats my manner, thats my family. No one up here cares shit, it must be just me and all the other Londoners i know who are the issue up here then as everyone in the midlands was lovely to you.

Why are you asking whats it's like to move from a city to a county? You must already know as by yr own admission you did just that , in reverse.

Its shite OP! Me and a few others have just told you.

Also, looking forward to hearing your WI rural transport links solutions . Me and the other 599 residents of the village. We been tying to solve this for yrs!

IndieRar · 09/08/2019 22:03

Jeez alright. Actually I grew up in a small northern town. Went to uni in midlands and then moved to a village for a couple of years before heading to the city with husband. So no I wasn't local by any stretch and didn't already know anyone. But I did want to be there.

Thank you for sharing your experience. I did ask.

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IndieRar · 09/08/2019 22:15

I don't count any of the places I've lived as rural though really which was why I was asking others experiences. Particularly if the move meant a change in career.

@QueenVictorious For clarification, it's not my WI, the National WI put forward campaigns each year, proposed and voted for by the membership. There are 220,000 members in England and Wales so these subjects affect a lot of them.

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QueenVictorious · 09/08/2019 22:18

@IndieRar i think then you were more naturally blended info that environment so understandably your experience was better.

All i am saying OP is that i moved innocently to what appears to be a whole galaxy away , as did other southerners and we have not been welcomed at all . It has affected us all in many ways. If you and your family want to move then do it. But pls think carefully about where you go and how you may be received at the other end. . I would sincerely hate for anyone to experience the last 10 yrs that i have.

I sincerely wish you well in your move,

Al2O3 · 09/08/2019 22:41

Moved from rural communities (x 2) to central London aged 20.

Moved from there to Oxford aged 30.

Moved from there to rural community aged 35.

Moved from there to central London aged 46.

Moved from there to rural community and still here now.

Great lifestyle now. High income and work about 5 hours per day on many days. Only been able to do so thank to connections made in the big cities.

Lyricallie · 13/08/2019 08:30

@IndieRar not an outdoor job at all lol. We both work in an office! We just like doing different things :)

QueenVictorious · 24/08/2019 16:00

Sorry to hijack your thread OP. Just need to get this out.

Been in my front and back garden all day today since 10am. A beautiful sunny warm day. Weeding, trimming hedges, maintaining climbing plants,watering the garden and cutting the grass. Washed my car too! My neighbours seem to have perfected the art of going out/getting into their cars while i am grabbing a tea/taking 5 mins. They perfected this some yrs ago. Their timing is impeccable... their looking out of the window needs work!

They also all seem to suffer with short sight as those on foot have failed to see me as they walked past me, my house, within 1ft of them , i was at my outside tap which is by my front door , on the main road, 1ft from the pavement. I am very very blonde, platinum blonde you cant miss me! I have Marilyn hair! In this sun you will see me!

Absolutely ridiculous when people cannot even say hello. I suppose this is what happens when you choose to ignore /exclude me and other non local people and do not welcome them into your community. Must be hard to look them in the eye eh? Still not seen anyone since anyone since 22nd July. But, i can highly recommend Orange is the New Black on Netflix. That has filled many a lonely hour. Great observation and humour. I have laughed this summer watching that.

What a success this moving away for a better life business has been and what a lovely welcoming county this is. Just as well i am strong and have this site to turn to when i need to talk. Thank you.

Thank god mostly for my 2 great DC's who show me the fun , laughter and opportunity in every day. We have had some fun days out, miles away from here.

God i can't wait to move back! I see now it is better to have a tiny weeny house in a great community surrounded by friends and people who see you ... rather than a big one amongst no-one.

Al2O3 · 24/08/2019 16:03

Dorset @QueenVictorious?

QueenVictorious · 24/08/2019 16:06

@Al2O3 yes, we were there a few days ago. Its beautiful and also my friend and her family left London for there 10 yrs ago. They love it. Their neighbours and new friends so warm and fun. Its beautiful and everyone we met friendly. Its no 1 on our to move to list now. x

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