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How do you write the possessive form of a name ending in s?

101 replies

MyBabyIsNameless · 09/08/2019 05:12

For example, if Thomas wanted a plaque on his bedroom door to indicate it was his room, would it be Thomas's or Thomas'?

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ineedaholidaynow · 09/08/2019 09:06

It is St Thomas’ hospital in London, but St James’s park.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 09/08/2019 09:11

Thomas'

campion · 09/08/2019 09:11

I don't have any difficulty saying St Barnabas's church and would do so as standard.
My DM was always saying eg ' It's James birthday next week' not realising she was actually saying 'It's Jame's birthday next week',thus giving him a new name. James's she couldn't get her head round but Thomas's was standard for her.

womanaf · 09/08/2019 09:11

The last time I went near a style guide, it was suggesting s’s for Regular Joes and s’ for VIPs.

So St James’ vs James’s or Jesus’ vs Thomas’s.

Obviously when it’s a thing you use it’s proper name - St Thomas’ Hospital, St James’ Park or whatever.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 09/08/2019 09:12

Ooo
That's right Ineedaholiday!

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 09/08/2019 09:13

Thomas’s.

Consider the variant spellings of Liz/Lis (Elizabeth/Elisabeth)

Liz’s
Lis’s

to see why s’ is illogical for possessive singular nouns.

Dandelion1993 · 09/08/2019 09:15

Have to 's' just looks like a spelling mistake.

Heratnumber7 · 09/08/2019 09:30

Thomas's looks best I think. James's, Francis's, Miles's etc.

GrouchyKiwi · 09/08/2019 09:38

Lynn Truss and her prescriptivist bullshit can eat my shirt.

Both versions are correct, it comes down to what you prefer.

amusedbush · 09/08/2019 09:42

Both are correct but I much prefer the look of just the apostrophe. My name ends in a double S so it looks ridiculous to add yet another one.

amusedbush · 09/08/2019 09:43

Thomas's looks best I think. James's, Francis's, Miles's etc.

See, I don't like the look of that at all. Too clunky.

Danglingmod · 09/08/2019 09:47

I think the reason why the second s looks better these days is that so many people now use an apostrophe to incorrectly denote a plural of a word ending in s (like Facebook status' Angry) so something like James' looks like someone incorrectly pluralising James, iyswim.

JingsMahBucket · 09/08/2019 09:50

@womanaf
The last time I went near a style guide, it was suggesting s’s for Regular Joes and s’ for VIPs.

So St James’ vs James’s or Jesus’ vs Thomas’s.

Obviously when it’s a thing you use it’s proper name - St Thomas’ Hospital, St James’ Park or whatever.

Its proper name. Grin

Deianira · 09/08/2019 09:53

Either is correct. Different publications still indicate different preferences here in their style guides, so anyone reading a lot of books/magazines/newspapers which uses one particular option may think the other is wrong, but it's just a relatively arbitrary preference established at some point, and then often 'back-explained' with a retroactive explanation which is just made up. (Style guides which originated at the Oxford press are especially awful for this...)

The inclusion of Greek names isn't very helpful for working out a rule in English - they aren't designed to have apostrophes for the possessive, so whatever we do there is a total made up Hodge podge anyway.

64sNewName · 09/08/2019 09:57

Another editor here. Most style guides I work with would add the final s, with exceptions for certain classical names such as Sophocles. So Thomas’s room, but Sophocles’ plays.

I think this might be quite a recent change in the Chicago Manual of Style (last few years maybe?) - but as far as I can recall, it’s been standard usage in the UK for a bit longer.

HappydaysArehere · 09/08/2019 10:07

I would also put Thomas’s room. I don’t care for the other option even if some think it correct. It just looks wrong.

Dec2019mumtobe · 09/08/2019 12:27

The rule of thumb is that you only add the extra S if you pronounce it.

So James's room or Thomas's room.

But Claires' room.

But both technically correct 😊

IAskTooManyQuestions · 09/08/2019 12:33

The Room of Thomas

or

Tom's

I prefer

Thomas'

EskewedBeef · 09/08/2019 12:33

Claire's room? There's no S at the end of Claire.

fedup21 · 09/08/2019 12:35

But Claires' room

??!

Claire doesn’t end in s!

That should be Claire’s room...

lemonjumper · 09/08/2019 12:38

I was taught Thomas'. But then I was also taught to add two spaces after a period when typing, which I gather is outdated now. Things change!

LadyPenelope68 · 09/08/2019 12:41

Having 3 children whose names end in S, I can confirm that both are grammatically correct, so it's a case of preference.

JasonColbyStankers · 09/08/2019 12:48

You’re all being ridiculous.

Any idiot knows it’s Thomaseseses’s’s’s’sss’s”s.

longwayoff · 09/08/2019 12:53

I live in a city housing a public school, fees would make you cry. One of the school houses is labelled Jenkins'. I find it annoying. No apostrophe would be enough, surely?

StoatofDisarray · 09/08/2019 15:50

Thomas' .

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