druggy neighbours

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I have some neighbours who's backyard backs onto my my backyard. We both have parking spaces at the back too.
They often sit in the car smoking weed, not a big issue I'm not bothered by that but I'm wondering if there's more to it.
They come and go 50 times a day and night, getting into the car and driving off only to be back a short time later, go in he house and back out..I know this as I can see directly from my office window it's a bit hard to ignore because they're often screaming and shouting at each other. They bang doors and the woman I particular is very loud. The curtains are always shut both upstairs and down. They seem to always have take aways as they throw the rubbish into the alleyway right outside the back door. it doesn't seem to bother them that they have to step over thier own rubbish.
They don't have flashy clothes or car in fact they look extremely scruffy
my question really is that do you think they are selling drugs as well as using them?
if so is there anything I can do about this?

Anyone’s guess. Though all the dealers I know are very discrete - the last thing they want to do is draw attention to themselves. Your neighbours sound dysfunctional and antisocial though and at the very least I’d be looking into reporting them to the council’s nuisance team, and environmental health for the flytipping which will eventually bring rats.

True they are a nuisance but I'm the sort of person who's usually live and let live and if they're not harming anyone I'd leave them to it.
The curtains are never open however which made me think along with the coming and going could be indicative of drugs being sold but I guess will never know.
It also bothers me that they clearly don't work and seem fit and well otherwise.

If they come and go 50 times a day and sit in their car smoking, how do they even find time to be in the house to do anything other than sleep?

I counted 20 times once, 50 was an exaggeration.
Maybe if you lived near them you'd realise how bloody annoying it is to hear the car doors slam all day and I'm quite often woken by it too.
Not to mention the shouting at each other.

If their curtains are closed 24/7 they might be growing and yes I’d say they are dealing, some people are too stupid to be discrete and it sounds like these two are. Do you notice if they have frequent visitors who only stay for a few minutes?
I’m live and let live like you as long as people do their own thing fairly quietly.
Are they approachable, would you feel comfortable asking them to keep it down?

Nope not at all approachable in the slightest. I'm not one for confrontation .
I've never noticed visitors but I suppose they could go from the front of the house, I can only see the back. It's usually the man coming and going so it seems like he's dropping stuff off but I guess I'm speculating.
It's a nice quiet clean area, not the most expensive houses in any way but mostly young couples and children or older couples.

"Live and let live" is all very well, but you will end up with rats if they are throwing rubbish out like that.

The drugs stash is being kept somewhere else, not in the house, in case they get busted and searched. They could be going backward and forwards to get it for dealing or for their own use

If they are dealing weed, which sounds probable from the coming and going, closed curtains, chaotic lifestyle and smoking it themselves - then unfortunately there's nothing you can really do. The police won't be bothered with these low level dealers who essentially deal to pay for their own supply. People dealing higher value drugs such as cocaine or heroin tend to be more discrete as the police might be interested. I come from a town with a very marked wealth divide and knew families like this growing up, it's fairly common.

I would be calling 101 to report your suspicions, I’d also call council regarding rubbish but if you make those calls you must be prepared to give car reg and their house number.
They could also be driving under the influence of drugs, therefore live and let live does not apply at all.my child’s walking a street/driving and could be killed by drunk or drugged driver.
You also said look quite scruffy too, so could be class a drug related if they look underweight, gaunt, wearing big layers even when it’s hot etc

On what you describe it's more likely they're delivering for someone else, not dealing themselves. The dealers don't do all the running around.

yes that's what it seems like, delivering. The man is quite gaunt, very skinny but the girl i would just say slim but shes always in a massive dressing gown even today in this hot weather.
They have 2 babies with them sometimes but not everyday and so there's also nappies on the ground too.
The man had a job because I used to see him in uniform but since the girl moved in he no longer works either.
I will see if I can report then for the rubbish

Id report to childrens SS.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were dealing, on the estate I live on there is a black Audi driving round, I've seen them picking someone up as I was walking to my car, by the time I was in my car & putting my seatbelt on the car was back dropping the same person off, they couldnt have gone further than round the block, my neighbour is a dealer as well but is quite discreet about it, no calls to the flat, doesn't deal on his own area. I know drugs are illegal & dealers will be a fact of life until legalisation but if they are disturbing other people's quiet enjoyment of their home, it's wrong.

My immediate main concern would be for the welfare of the babies, above all.

The babies aren't there often so I assume they don't have custody of them.

Just to update I've noticed them with a dog who is as skinny as a whippet only it's an alsatian
I am reporting to RSPCA, I can't get through on the phone but have filled a form online, does anyone know how quickly they take action? Poor little thing looked miserable and just so so skinny