Johnny and Jack

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Since Jack is short for John haven’t Abbey Clancy and her husband named their boys the same name?

Jack as a nn for John is not really used nowadays, both are standalone names in their own right.

How about saying oh that's a nice name, congratulations, he's cute, etc.

I know lots of Jacks, none of them are short for John.

Technically yes.

Yep.

No, one is named Johnny and one is named Jack. Jack is only short for John if they are officially called John but are known as Jack.

Divock Samrat didn't make the cut then!

I thought this was going to be about pirates of the Caribbean.

Just me then?

Okay..

I do agree Jack is better than Divock and Jack is used as a stand alone name nowadays but seems unusual choice as they are derivatives of the same name.

I think they’re separate enough names and not many people know one is short for the other - it’s a pretty roundabout diminutive anyway.

My Grandad was named John but everyone called him Jack. So in that sense you are right. If he were alive now he would be over 110, so we’re talking a long time ago. Modern names have moved on and Jack and John are both used independently.

I thought the same.