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I've just discovered I have Aphantasia - who knew !

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VictoriaBun · 06/07/2019 10:41

You might have it also.

Close your eyes and imagine a happy place, a wood , a beach anywhere that floats your boat . See the image in your mind, feel yourself there etc etc.
Now can you actually see the image in your head ? No. Well then you also have it ! !
It's blown my mind that I've got to this age and realise that when people say something like count sheep to help you sleep that can actually see the sheep in their head. Wow. Apparently 2 -3 % of the population also have Aphantasia. Who's in the club ?

OP posts:
Ambydex · 06/07/2019 13:42

How does memory work if you can't recall any visual element? Is remembering different to imagining?

SinkGirl · 06/07/2019 13:42

Me too. I tried explaining this to DH a while ago and he could not get it. He thought that meant I couldn’t remember what people / things look like - I can, I just don’t see a picture

DaisyDreaming · 06/07/2019 13:43

I see black but can imagine the image, does that make sense? So I can remember the image but can’t see it. Do people actually see like their eyes are open or just you can remember the image

SinkGirl · 06/07/2019 13:52

I know what DH and my kids look like, but I can’t picture their faces if I close my eyes. It’s very hard to explain.

If I look at my coffee table right now for a while and then close my eyes, I can’t picture it - I get no image - but I can describe it to you

Sissy79 · 06/07/2019 13:52

Wikipedia seems to say there is a spectrum, and the official test gives you a score which determines whether you have it, and the severity.

Here’s a test. Very interesting
wh.snapsurveys.com/s.asp?k=148940557153

WingBingo · 06/07/2019 13:53

I have an impressive memory because I can picture most things in my mind.

I am also face blind though, so not sure how that works. I have to know someone well before I recognise them outside of their usual setting.

I fantasise in my head all the time and the images are very vivid. So are my dreams and I can lucid dream. I wonder if this is linked?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/07/2019 13:54

I can only daydream or visualise stuff effectively with my eyes open. The image is floating behind my eyes towards the top of my head. I only see flashes.

StoppinBy · 06/07/2019 13:55

I find the same thing, I also cannot picture people's faces. The one exception to this rule is that I can sometimes, but not often, picture my daughter's face but only recently (she's now 6) and I can't picture my son's face (he is 2). I can picture 'things' about them such as their nose or freckles or the way their hair was curled round their ears etc but not the whole face.

ElspethFlashman · 06/07/2019 13:55

If its any consolation to people who can't visualise things it doesn't mean you have a good memory.

I have an absolutely appalling memory. But I remember anything I've seen. I m a nurse and can bump into someone years later and remember their face even though they may only have been my patient for a day. I can conjure up a sequence of sheep jumping over a fence no problem, but it's boring as hell so it never worked for me. I can remember every hair in my deceased parents eyebrows.

However if I don't see it, I don't remember it. So if someone just tells me something, I may not really register it. When I was in university I had to literally draw random pictures to remember topics in exams. I'd remember the picture and it'd trigger the topic.

But in daily life a visual memory isn't that practical. The world is easier for people who remember in words or numbers. It's just set up that way.

SinkGirl · 06/07/2019 14:04

It’s strange the assumptions people make.

Do you think people who have no vision at all can’t enjoy listening to fiction audiobooks? Or have sexual fantasies?

I am brilliant at recognising faces - we will be watching a tv show and I’ll recognise an actor and pick out that he was in x episode of y tv show we saw years ago. But if I close my eyes I can’t picture them.

If I read a book I can imagine what that world feels like, looks like etc, I just can’t visualise it.

MitziK · 06/07/2019 14:06

That might answer why DP cannot function without glasses/contacts and a thousand lights on at night, whilst I can navigate easily in the dark without my glasses.

I know exactly where I am in 3 dimensions, where everything is, the layout, that the blooping noise is DTwatCat obviously being woken up on the third stair down from me to the right side of the tread and is moving to put his body directly in my path and can describe directions easily.

I've also made maps at work covering several floors and essential features without needing to go and check where things are in relation to one another.

It can be quite frustrating if DP asks where something is, I tell him and he can't follow. I have to go and show him.

Are people with it able to navigate using maps or is it hard to relate what you see to a flat piece of paper with symbols on it? If they can't, I wonder if the reliance upon SatNav is any indication of the scale of people that don't form visual images?

Jellylegsni · 06/07/2019 14:06

I can't see things in my head either. I thought it might be related to my asd.

SinkGirl · 06/07/2019 14:09

Yes, weirdly if I have my eyes open I can get a very fleeting vague image of whatever it is in my mind, but it flies by so fast

katewhinesalot · 06/07/2019 14:14

I can visualise stuff but not see an actual picture. It's the same whether I close my eyes or keep them open and think of a newly decorated room for example. It makes no difference. Surely thats normal?

Do most people experience it differently with their eyes open and shut?

zcazca · 06/07/2019 14:19

If you can daydream does it mean you don't have aphantasia?

Jaxhog · 06/07/2019 14:25

Wow. I had no idea this was a thing.

They can see the actual sheep? I always thought it was just a figure of speech
I assumed everyone saw them! But then I 'see' everything, including pictures of maps, task lists, buildings, people and sheep!.

Thrupennybrit · 06/07/2019 14:34

Gosh yes Mitzi, my DH needs lights on to navigate a room, I don't and much prefer not to. And he totally relies on Sat Nav, actually its invention has removed a not-insignificant thorn in our relationship. I am getting quite sure he has this condition now

Piggle23 · 06/07/2019 14:34

I must have the opposite of this, I can visualise quite strong filmic scenarios and have a bit of an imagination. (was good for my film studies work I suppose)

Oliversmumsarmy · 06/07/2019 14:38

Can I ask those that can’t visualise things how you remember things.

I write a lot of lists and usually remember things I need from various lists. So if I see baskets and I see some I like at a good price I can visualise the list and see the size I need.

MitziK · 06/07/2019 14:39

Depends, @katewhinesalot. To give an example, when driving through Dartmoor (I was the passenger) and seeing the landscape and walls/sites of ancient settlements, I can superimpose people, crops, animals, different weather and buildings over the top, so the visualisation is working with what I actually see.

If I need to visualise something completely different, I sort of 'switch off' my sight - I stop focusing on anything in particular and it's all still 'there' but I'm paying little attention to it - I'll notice movements immediately, though, such as a crow just flying from right to left in line with the top of my front window as I thought about what I'd type. I don't think 'there's a crow', I've seen it and know what it is without having to make the words in my head.

If my eyes are closed, it can become a more detailed image - I can place myself in it more easily, know what's behind me or somewhere in the area, think of how the breeze would feel on my arm and the sound/look of the tree as its leaves are moved. Or I get distracted by a part of the image that I didn't know existed - I have issues with attention span - and go off on a complete tangent.

For example, the crap cut price CBT counselling through the GP 'meditation' consisted of sitting in a noisy room facing onto a noisy street and thinking of walking down some steps. Great. Except I was picturing the idiot revving his car up outside, the doctor calling the patient's name out in the waiting room, thinking the blind in the room needed fixing because it was squeaking, wondering whether the air con was ever going to be switched on - AND getting distracted on the imaginary steps because I'd be far more interested in watching the birds in the trees and wandering off into the countryside than walking down into some dark, enclosed courtyard with a bunch of tatty plants in pots.

WeaselsRising · 06/07/2019 14:44

It has a name? It's a thing? Wow. I went to a relaxation place where we were told to imagine ourselves walking through a beautiful garden. Look around and what do you see? said the presenter. Um nothing. I can't hold the image in my head, let alone move around it.

I've always loved reading, from being very little, but I don't see the characters or scenes in my mind. Oddly when I watch the film the characters still don't look right!

The only thing I can do is when I was taking exams, having read one of my essays over a few times I can pull up the essay in my head exactly as it was, like a large photo and rehash it.

saynotoselfid · 06/07/2019 14:46

@Oliversmumsarmy I keep my lists on my phone.

MenuPlant · 06/07/2019 14:47

There are some counter intuitive things like people with this are a bit better at doing those tests where you have to rotate shapes. Idea was that people who can see in their heads are physically rotating the shapes and then over laying to match.

When I do it, it's more like I identify the shape by its more obvious characterist8cs and then see which one shares them. So different methods will come at different shop speeds what is weird though is that the people making the tests will have made assumptions about what is being tested which in some people is not what is being tested at all iyswim.

Bottom line is none of us know the experience of others. I can't see pictures in my head but maybe I can do something else which must others can't, I'd assume it's normal though and not even realise. We all may be going along with really quite different inputs and nuances to life :)

Hellbentwellwent · 06/07/2019 14:49

I have this, I find it truly depressing to think that I can’t visualise, mind you if i did I’d never get anything done, I’d spend my life in my head.

What I don’t understand though is how so many people are crap at drawing? Surely if you can visualise these images in your head you can draw it straight from your own image?

MenuPlant · 06/07/2019 14:50

Olivers my memory is poor.

I keep a lot of physical lists.

Like pp I also have lists on my phone!

The memory thing made for a really difficult school experience and I supporse worse as I'm quite clever so teachers and parents assumed I wasn't trying when I couldn't do times tables or dates in history or whatever and I got told off quite a lot. They'd say just memorise it but I had no idea really how to do that. I mean probably my brain just doesn't work like that so it wff a, maybe not impossible but very difficult ask. They should start learning more about these variations which it seems are not uncommon, for teaching.

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