Why does one 's driving licence have one's place of birth on it?

[Miljah]

It occurs to me that in these fractionated times, it's maybe not necessary to have this on what for many us your principle form of ID, going into pubs, night clubs etc where one might encounter 'more elevated' emotions once alcohol enters the mix.

WDYT?

Mine says England, a picture of the flag of Europe with UK written in it, and a picture of the Union Jack.

Mine says United Kingdom so does DH’s. We were both born in Scotland.

So Scottish born sakopes says 'Scotland'; likethefights says Britain. Why the difference?

What are you on about OP?

What elevated emotions?

Why is it an issue?

Protein I am white, MC, leafy southern English in appearance and accent. 100% English.

Believe me, you wouldn't guess where I was born unless you saw my driving license.

However, I had to lie about that to get interviews as a HCP! In 1983.

I just wonder whether, in more 'racially challenged' times, it's useful for, say, security, doormen and shopkeepers to be 'allowed' to do their own amateur racial profiling on people given their place of birth as demanded by seeing ID (which as I've already said, doesn't represent me in any way) given how meaningless it can be.

Mine says NK for place of birth. Now I'm worried, was sure I knew my birthplace!

Mine says Great Britain.

I'm just happy to prove that I'm over double the legal drinking age. It's a bummer when your gin is confiscated in the supermarket when you're in your late 30s

I just wonder whether, in more 'racially challenged' times, it's useful for, say, security, doormen and shopkeepers to be 'allowed' to do their own amateur racial profiling on people given their place of birth as demanded by seeing Id

No! Just no, you can not descriminate on age, gender, sex, sexuality, NATIONALITY (where you were born) disablity, RELIGION (or in this case presumed religion based on where you were born) or Race (which may well be different to the one most prominant where your born such as the britush BAME)

So no shops, clubs, staff will not be "allowed" to do any sort of racial profiling/descimination of any sort.

Thar won't change unless we get Donald trump as PM which given hes a) america and b) 6 times bankcrupt i think its possiably massively unlikely.

*american - he isn't the whole of america, of course, he just thunks he is!!:

However, I had to lie about that to get interviews as a HCP! In 1983 is this not illegal?

Mine says NK for place of birth. Now I'm worried, was sure I knew my birthplace!

It baffles me somewhat that this can happen, given a DL is used for ID, and the evidence you have to provide to get one, how can they not know where you were born!

So Scottish born sakopes says 'Scotland'; likethefights says Britain. Why the difference?

Some say 'England' though, you missed that out.

Perhaps they have changed the format at some point, so rather than saying GB they now state the country, or the other way round.

Mine says Scotland

Or it may be dependant on what you wrote on the form in that space. The countries are correct; but GB is also correct. As is the city.

I'm really curious where you're from OP if you had to lie about it to get an NHS job. In the 80s people came from all over the place to work in the NHS.

I imagine most shop workers/ bouncers just look at the DOB and have no interest on what else is on the drivers licence.

I don't care if someone was born in Tunbridge Wells, Hong Kong, Timbuktu or Outer Mongolia, and I don't suppose other people would give a shiny shit either.

GF if you ask me.

Mine just says 'United Kingdom'.
Where you were born doesn't determine your nationality anyway.

Basically the OP is British but was born in another country?

So do most of yours say 'Great Britain' on them? Or 'England'?
Nope. Scotland. As does my accent.

Just checked my Aussie licence and no place of birth.

On Aussie an passport it only gives the suburb (town) you were born in, not the country too. My DD were grilled something rotten, money, etc. coming into the UK because we had no proof we were born there.

Australia is like the Borg.

Are you somehow ashamed about where you were born? I'm asking because I honestly don't understand the problem, and I'm trying to understand.

Mine says United Kingdom, hardly controversial. My passport has town of birth (London in my case, not very identifying).

My DD is too young for a driving license, bit her passport correctly lists the German city she was born in. She has no claim to any German nationality, only has a British birth certificate, and the extent of her German is Danke, Bitte and her preferred flavour of ice cream. So place of birth cannot really tell you anything about her.

Racist bouncers are going to be racist regardless of someone’s place of birth. I guess there’s a slight possibility that a xenophobic bouncer might use this to discriminate against a white Lithuanian or whatever who would otherwise have been waved in wordlessly.