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Wraparound care and film ratings

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purpleme12 · 30/06/2019 20:18

I've found out that the wraparound care my child goes to has put on a film that's rated 12a. My child is 5 although obviously there are children up to 11 there.

I would not have put this film on for my child just to clarify. I have read the comments on common sense media and the consensus is that it's suitable for age 10 plus. And reading the comments about why it's not something I would want my child to watch yet.

I truly thought these places would only show a Pg rating at the most? I mean some PGs I wouldn't show my child but if it's a PG I could see why they'd show it but a 12a? To me it's not right

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purpleme12 · 30/06/2019 22:27

Are there any actual rules on what places like this are supposed to show?

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megletthesecond · 30/06/2019 22:31

I wouldn't be impressed either. Even a PG could be too scary for some young children.

heavenlypink · 30/06/2019 22:40

In my work place only a U or PG (even then depending on content) is shown without parental consent

A 12A would only be shown if all parents were happy Easily done via ParentMail or whatever means a school uses to communicate with parents.

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purpleme12 · 30/06/2019 22:42

This is what I don't get. I just can't understand how they could have thought a 12a is ok to show. I am so disappointed

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LolaSmiles · 30/06/2019 22:48

Films can be shown outside of age classifications if there is an educational reason for doing so, but I'm not sure wraparound care would be able to make a reasonable justification for showing a 12A around 5 year olds.

It's inappropriate in my opinion.

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purpleme12 · 30/06/2019 22:55

I'm glad it's not just me. So annoyed. Just feel like I don't trust them to be honest

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purpleme12 · 30/06/2019 22:57

(it's not the actual school. It's like before and after school care attached to a nursery if you know what I mean)

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BackforGood · 30/06/2019 23:46

I wouldn't be happy either.
IMO, you should show nothing other than a 'U' where there are dc under about 8.
I would certainly go in and speak to staff, or the manager about it.

HigaDequasLuoff · 01/07/2019 04:52

I agree and would be concerned about this.

Nb the 12A rating simply doesn't exist for DVDs. It is a rating that only applies in cinemas and means any child under 12 must be accompanied by an adult who is taking responsibility for the child.

DVDs are rated 12 not 12a and it is illegal to sell or rent them to an under 12 yo.

A childcare setting simply should not be shoeing a 12a film where there are kids as young as 5. Complain.

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purpleme12 · 01/07/2019 06:55

Oh right that's interesting I thought it was still 12a on dvd. Glad I'm not alone on this. But I just feel like this is so obvious and this shouldn't have to brought up :-(

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HigaDequasLuoff · 01/07/2019 07:26

What film was it, out of interest?

In terms of legality, unless the premises holds a licence (unlikely) or they are showing the film as part of a structured educational curriculum (also unlikely) then they are breaking the rules to show any film, PG and U cert included - as per that "WARNING" text at the start of every DVD which we all ignore. However it is a rule that is simply never enforced.

FogCutter · 01/07/2019 07:30

I'd be complaining to the manager and ofsted. It's not appropriate for young children to see 12 rated films, they're rated 12 for a reason.!

At DSs after school club they only show Us & PGs and they text parents for consent if they are showing a PG , any parent not responding or not giving consent and their child gets to do other fun stuff instead like craft or playing outside.

LolaSmiles · 01/07/2019 07:37

@FogCutter There is no need to complain to Ofsted. It's get a thrown around on here for any complaint and they are not interested unless it is a significant safeguarding /law breaking issue or someone has followed the complaints procedure.

All OP has to do to start with is speak to the manager sensibly about the situation and then decide from there if it needs to go formal written complaint (most likely not if it is resolved).

BackforGood · 01/07/2019 13:58

Exactly what Lola said.

britnay · 01/07/2019 14:21

meh, it depends entirely on the film. What was it?

HigaDequasLuoff · 01/07/2019 18:08

@britnay no it doesn't.

it depends entirely on the film. What was it?

If there's an element of judgement depending on what the film is, then that judgement is for the parents to make not the childcare setting.

I can't think of any 12cert film that all 5year olds would definitely be OK watching.

BackforGood · 01/07/2019 18:26

I don't think it depends on the film either - possibly if it were a PG, but not appropriate to show a 12 / 12A, which none of the dc there are 'automatically' old enough to watch.

nitgel · 01/07/2019 18:29

Do you pay much for this ? It's really lazy of child carers to stick films on imo (just my opinion!,)

daisydoooo · 01/07/2019 18:40

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purpleme12 · 01/07/2019 20:12

I don't mind watching films every now and again in places like these but yes I do wonder how much it's going on. But I can't gouge that from what she tells me.

I'm going to call them tomorrow. Not had chance today. And yes they might react the right way when I tell them say it's noted etc but I can't help thinking this is awful care to be honest. I feel like they haven't got my child's best interests at heart

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ineedteanownotlater · 01/07/2019 20:25

In the 2 schools I have worked in over the past 8 years we have only been allowed to show 'u' rated films unless we have permission to show of rated films. We have shown a 12a for 1 class before but they were year 6 and again got permission of all parents before the children saw it, and it was part of the learning they were doing not just having a film day if you know what I mean

pumpkinpie01 · 01/07/2019 20:38

I wouldn't be happy with that. A few years ago when my Dd was at senior school , the teacher was going to put on an educational film rated 15, my DD was the youngest in the class and was a few weeks off being 15 and the teacher wouldn't play it. I would enquire as to how often they are expected to sit and watch a film too or are there other options available .

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purpleme12 · 01/07/2019 20:53

Thanks for everyone's thoughts on this. It helps.

I'm considering a childminder to be honest but you never know what you're getting and it all worries me.

I know they've got Harry potter there as they were given that choice another time. Don't know which one it was as I know some are PGs (and while I wouldn't choose to show her it I don't think I'd complain about a PG) but I also now some are 12. So it makes me wonder if it's the 12 they've got

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BackforGood · 01/07/2019 21:42

If my dc1 had seen a Harry Potter at 5, it would have given him nightmares. He used to really "live" a film - be really engrossed in it. Now, whereas some 5 yr olds wouldn't take much notice and wouldn't be bothered, the OoSClub can't be sure which dc they have. Hence they shouldn't be showing anything other than a U.

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purpleme12 · 01/07/2019 22:18

I feel really uneasy.

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