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Yes Boris, I do want to hear about what happened.

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Pinkypurplerose · 22/06/2019 19:39

Boris in the news, says people 'Don't want to hear about that sort of thing' - when asked about his domestic yesterday. Yes Boris, I do want to know actually. I want to know exactly how the next likely PM conducts himself & I don't think your domestic ding-dongs are off the agenda when half the neighbours can hear them.

I was prepared to give Bozza the benefit of the doubt but this behaviour might just tip me over the edge. We need to know. Are you electable or a complete loose cannon?

Daily Fail article here

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Emmapeeler · 22/06/2019 22:00

Can't anyone see how this seems more than just a coincidence?

I thought the Govey cocaine story cropping up when it did was a ‘strange coincidence’. But the Police have confirmed they were called out to an incident, and it was filmed.

lljkk · 22/06/2019 22:02

I expect a very juicey tell-all book from GirlFr in a few yrs.
I am half considering buying this book already.
Would be amusing if GirlFr actually kicked him out of her flat. This week, I mean.
Can't beat Politics for Soap Opera nowadays.

Yes Boris, I do want to hear about what happened.
Emmapeeler · 22/06/2019 22:03

police have been and said nothing of note happened

That’s what all police reports say about DV incidents where both partners have said everything is fine, which is a common theme in DV incidents.

Oflawrence · 22/06/2019 22:08

Agree with above .
It is VERY common for Domestic Abuse victims to deny all when police attend....does not mean nothing has happened.
Who knows what the incident has been in this case but is important that it does not result in myths about Domestic Abuse.

byteme1011 · 22/06/2019 22:10

@cloudpop I agree
God help us all

lljkk · 22/06/2019 22:14

I feel uncomfortable with a common MN assumption that all women living with jerks have no agency. Maybe CS is being abused but more likely she's masterfully calculated that she'll get exactly what she wants out of the relationship. My gut assumption is that strong characters usually attract each other. She has every opportunity to turf BJ onto the streets if she doesn't get from the relationship what she wants.

Quintella · 22/06/2019 22:14

He's been indulged by the press for so long as loveable, posh, scruffy 'Boris' but if Johnson wants to be PM he has to get used to this level of scrutiny. If he doesn't like it, well tough titty quite frankly.

happyhillock · 22/06/2019 22:18

I'd love to hear what happened

Quintella · 22/06/2019 22:19

Face it, his supporters will thoroughly applaud this. They'll be thrilled to hear he doesn't take any shit from some chick. He'll have soared in their estimation. God help us all.

Yup. The UK is like America now, full blown culture war between left v right, leave v remain. 'Grab 'em by the pussy' didn't harm Trump one bit and this won't deter any of Johnson's fans.

CloudPop · 22/06/2019 22:32

@lljkk you're right. I'm sure she is every bit as focused on her new SW1A postcode as her odious boyfriend.

HelenaDove · 22/06/2019 23:37

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/scotland-yard-press-operation-faces-questions-over-boris-johnson-row

Scotland Yard is facing questions over why it initially failed to tell the Guardian that police officers had been called to a row between the Tory leadership frontrunner Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, which featured screaming, shouting and banging.

The Metropolitan police twice failed to give the Guardian information about officers being dispatched to Symonds’s flat in south London after a 999 call early on Friday morning – the second time even after Scotland Yard had been given the unique CAD (computer-aided dispatch) number.
Boris Johnson's neighbour: 'There was no response, so we called the police'
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Only after persistent questioning by the Guardian – including giving precise details about the time of the police call-out, as well as the identification numbers of police vehicles that attended the scene – did Scotland Yard finally confirm details about the incident.

It is common practice for police forces to provide basic details about officers attending incidents, including whether or not arrests have been made. When police attended the scene, an officer could be heard on the radio asking a colleague to “restrict it”. When asked, police did not clarify what the phrase meant.

The Guardian’s disclosure of the row between Johnson and Symonds amplified scrutiny of the politician’s bid to enter No 10 as the UK’s next prime minister.
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One neighbour said they had heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. On a recording made by the neighbour, heard by the Guardian, Symonds can be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.

The couple can be heard rowing about spilt red wine, with Symonds telling him: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”

At one stage, Johnson can be heard telling Symonds to “get off my fucking laptop” before a loud crashing noise. The neighbour said that after becoming concerned, they knocked on the door, but received no response, and so called 999.

After a call to the Met’s press office on Friday, the Guardian sent a follow-up email providing details of the street where the incident took place and the time police were called. The press office responded asking for more information, adding: “I’ve checked call lists for both Lambeth and Southwark and I can’t see any calls to [street name] for this time.”
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After being asked for more details, the Guardian responded with additional information, including the CAD number and information that the incident was attended by two police cars and a van.

Later, the press office responded, saying: “We have no knowledge of a domestic incident at that location. If you have more information about the nature of the call, please let us know.”

It is unclear whether or not the press office had access to the relevant information at this stage or whether it had been restricted. The Guardian replied: “Are you able to confirm that there was a call-out that resulted in that reference number

The Guardian further provided a number plate for one of the police cars attending the scene, and said that there was audio of the police officers at the address and pictures of their vehicles.

The Metropolitan police then finally confirmed details of the incident, providing a statement saying: “At 00.47 on Friday 21 June police responded to a call from a local resident in the SE5 area of Camberwell.

“The caller was concerned for the welfare of a female neighbour. Police attended and spoke to all occupants of the address, who were all safe and well. There were no offences or concerns apparent to the officers and there was no cause for police action.”

After being questioned by the Guardian over why Scotland Yard twice failed to provide information about the incident despite being provided with specific details, a spokesman said: “We require media to provide us with specific information including date, time, location of incident and nature of incident in order to trace a matter and provide them with details.

“This matter was reported to police as a concern for welfare and not a domestic incident. The reporter was advised that no details could be found based on the information provided and invited to provide more information

“Shortly afterwards we were able to confirm details and provided information to the reporter. The press office did not at any point deny or refuse to confirm that police had attended an address in Camberwell, and any suggestions of a cover-up are completely false.”

Guidance published by the College of Policing, a professional body for employees of police forces in England and Wales, states: “Responses to media inquiries about investigations or police activity should be open, honest and transparent. Clear reasoning should be recorded if a decision is made to withhold information because its release would have a detrimental impact on the investigation or operation.”

It goes on: “The journalist must provide sufficient additional detail to identify an investigation or incident, without reference to a named person, before being provided with information about the investigation.”

Any information released by police should “as a minimum” include the allegation or offence, the date the information was received, which unit is investigating, arrests, interviews under caution, and bail conditions or charges made

A spokesman for Johnson has so far refused to comment on the incident.

Emmapeeler · 23/06/2019 09:23

‘Restrict it’, hmm. Wonder what the clear reasoning would be for that?

RuffleCrow · 23/06/2019 09:27

Same here .

If a man can't even treat his partner with respect, no way is he fit to run the country. I am very interested. But most Tories are rich white men. Hardly the demographic most likely to give a shit about how women are treated.

lljkk · 23/06/2019 09:35

Someone on Broadcasting House just claimed that BJ is "very shy" and reserved, which is why he doesn't want to talk about his car crash of a private life. Pffffft. Might be easier not to have a car crash of a private life, eh?

PostNotInHaste · 23/06/2019 09:42

I want to know. If you put yourself forward for public office and this case the highest position in the country then there are certain standards that you need to adhere to. Being part of an argument which has people concerned for the welfare of one party is not appropriate on any level, however much people try to minimise it eg. It’s summer and the windows are open.

sluj · 23/06/2019 09:45

I'm in two minds about this. I absolutely agree with a neighbour calling the Police if they fear abuse is going on but that is totally at odds with then providing the recordings and information to a left wing newspaper.
The neighbour and partner are well known left wing leaners and are apparently part of a campaign by neighbours against Boris which includes posters and verbal abuse. Carrie has now said that she and Boris are so intimidated they won't return to the flat. That's not on the BBC this morning, only the neighbour defending themselves.

Both Boris and Carrie were probably exhausted after their gruelling day, especially with the news of John Worboys on Carrie's mind. Boris spilled red wine on the sofa and she lost it. Most of the shouting is from her on the report. There would be a loud reaction from me too if red wine went on my sofa and we all jumped up trying to avoid it going on the laptop, on the carpet etc

If you look at it like that, there may be a case that it was just an arguement that got loud. Who knows? I certainly don't think that once the Police have confirmed it was all ok that the newspaper should have been called.

Dapplegrey · 23/06/2019 09:58

I agree sluj. By all means call the police but don’t feel happy with the neighbours recording the argument and sending it to the Guardian.

BlueCornishPixie · 23/06/2019 10:22

I want to know if our future priminister is involved in domestic abuse.

Of course the priminister will get intense scrutiny over his/her private life. That's part and parcel of the job really, the public is going to want to know anything immoral. Because his private views and activities, will reflect in how he runs the country.

At the end of the day, if it's nothing theres no harm in explaining it was just a silly drunken argument. The only reason you wouldn't is if it wasn't.

Dapplegrey · 23/06/2019 10:23

That should say ‘I don’t feel happy...’

sluj · 23/06/2019 10:34

Carrie has confirmed she is more frightened of the neighbours and it was just a row ( though this is in the Sun)

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9354092/boris-johnson-furious-partner-carrie-symonds-stitch-up-anti-brexit/

Hope the link works

EssentialHummus · 23/06/2019 10:50

I want to know, because it goes to character. Having said that I live in a near- identical setup and I can hear my neighbours having non-shouty conversations. But neither wants to be PM.

cannotchoose · 23/06/2019 11:40

Fully behind anyone getting involved & helping any woman who is experiencing it or at risk of domestic violence.

But "guardianista millionaire socialist" neighbours who phoned the police THEN phoned the newspaper... hmmm, can't get behind them and their motives for contacting the newspaper Hmm

Dapplegrey · 23/06/2019 15:32

At the end of the day, if it's nothing theres no harm in explaining it was just a silly drunken argument. The only reason you wouldn't is if it wasn't.

That is true but Boris supporters will say the former and his opponents will say the latter. How will anyone ever know the truth?

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