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Horse kicked dog on walk

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Sammiejo12 · 17/06/2019 00:26

Evening mn

After some advice

I was walking my friends dog in a group of 4 very well behaved horsey yard dogs.

We met a rider (without a hat on) riding and leading a pony.

As the ponies approached I put my friends dog on the lead - one of those slip leads and held him close to me on the edge of the path.

As a rider myself I joked to the rider that she'd lost the rider for the pony she was leading, she replied "oh no, no one wants to get on this one"

With that she passed (she didn't see this happen) and as I went to walk off the pony kicked out at the dog I had hold of and caught him on the end of the nose (luckily wasn't shod) but the force sent the dog flying. He was yelping while laying on the ground for a good 15sec, I was comforting him and just trying my best to calm him down, the rider at this point had jumped off and was apologising profusely saying how bad she felt.

nothing spooked the pony, the dog didn't do anything other than begin to walk off from my side while still on lead. I was closest to the pony at the point with a good metre or two between us.

Anyway, we continued our walk and the dog seemed to be ok.

I thought I'd seen the rider before and had a feeling I knew where the ponies were kept.

Later this evening I dropped dog back to owners (they weren't in) I decided to go and see the rider and explain that I think it's best I pass her details onto the owner just in case anything serious has happened to the dog.

I found her and her sister, firstly they lied about knowing what ponies I was looking for, then the sister was telling/shouting (who wasn't there) how I was a irresponsible dog owner. Even though the dog didn't do anything, literally nothing, I was stood still at the edge of the path with the dog on a short lead.

I have horses myself and the dog has been around mine all weekend and has been fine.

She said that she wasnt going to take responsibility for the accident and if the owner makes a claim for £££ potential vet fees she won't accept it was her fault.

I called round again to the owners house but they weren't in, left a couple of voice calls and texts but no reply yet.

I'm tossing and turning worrying now about the poor dog, he's such a sweetheart and it was so horrible to see him on the floor in shock and then for the rider to verbally attack me when I went to see her/them.

I just would like other people's opinions, I can't stress enough that the dog didn't do anything.

The rider had her back to us as she went pass and only heard the dog yelp so didn't actually see what happened. I was with two other people and they are horrified to the point of tears.

There was no cuts or anything significant, no teeth were knocked out , once we were back to my house the bruising was starting to show under his nose but he ate his lunch and had a little play with the others, he genuinely seemed ok.

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Pantsomime · 17/06/2019 00:32

Sounds like a complete accident- no one at fault

Innocentinfamy · 17/06/2019 00:38

Poor pup! Were the two other people with you when it happened, did they actually witness it?

Floralnomad · 17/06/2019 00:38

I wouldn’t do anything it was an accident . I wouldn’t have gone to hunt out the pony lady .

twoheaped · 17/06/2019 00:39

Sounds like you could have waited to put some more room between you and the horses before moving off. Unfortunately you didn't and the poor dog copped for it.
Don't think the rider was really to blame.
Hope dog isn't too sore.

Sammiejo12 · 17/06/2019 00:40

It wasn't a hunt the owner down, I just wanted to let her know I needed to pass her details onto the dog owner as if anything serious comes of the injury then as it was her pony that kicked out she needs to take responsibility.

I knew who she was, out of politeness I wanted to check she was ok also as it wasn't a nice situation to be in for anyone.

Yes my other two friends saw it, one burst into tears and the other was just in shock.

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Sammiejo12 · 17/06/2019 00:41

The path was quite narrow and she was riding two across, so sat on one and was leading another. I couldn't get any more over.

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dreichuplands · 17/06/2019 01:04

This sounds like an accident.
The horse should have liability insurance but the dog was too close if the horse could kick it.
Sometimes accidents just happen.

over50andfab · 17/06/2019 01:22

I agree - sounds like an accident, plus we all know to give horses a wide berth (ie stay out of kicking range) especially those we don’t know.

justbeniceplease · 17/06/2019 01:26

Well they are animals not people. Unpredictable and not absolutely controllable. This isn't any persons 'fault'.

Grumpymug · 17/06/2019 01:41

Your second update sheds a bit more light on the situation, about the narrow path.
That's two ponies, 4 dogs and a human on a narrow path? And you moved over to allow her past as far as you could?
Tbh it does sound like a pure accident, if there was no room to move more for you, and she couldn't have had the pony trailing behind her because she would have had less control that way with her leading arm twisted behind her I don't think there was anything that either of you could have done to prevent this happening really. If you have horses you'll know they can be unpredictable, and it sounds like none of you saw this coming.
As for the potential vets bill, I don't know tbh, I'm insured for the horse I ride, so in this scenario if it were me I'd have taken the owners details and yours of and contacted my insurance company to let them know what had happened and let them deal with it. I wouldn't have accepted liability though as my insurance company says not to.
And being honest in your shoes once unable to contact the owners of the dog, as it wasn't my dog, I'd have got him to a vet to be checked to be safe, with my own dog I'd have taken a wait and see approach but I wouldn't have with someone else's, even with no visible or obvious injuries.
And if the rider was over 14 she has no legal obligation to wear a hat (I think that's still the case) not that I agree with that at all, you should always wear one when riding, but in this situation I'm not sure it'd be relevant.
I'm sorry the dog got hurt but I don't think either of you could have avoided this happening really, given what you describe. I don't think the shouting was on though, these things do happen and by her being like that it's not really helped anything.

Katie1507 · 17/06/2019 10:42

Sounds like an accident to me, if you are in charge of a dog it’s your responsibility to make sure you keep that dog a safe distance away. If he managed to get kicked he was too close unfortunately. If the owner shouted, perhaps (like another poster replied) they did feel hunted down whether you intended for them to feel that way or not. This can be taken as a learning experience to make sure dogs are kept a safe difference away in future. Also to exchange details at the time just like if at a car accident! Hope doggy feels better soon!

Sammiejo12 · 17/06/2019 14:15

Thank you everyone who commented.

Yes The dog is fine, just bruising and thankfully no worse.

I agree that's it's my responsibility for the dog but apart from picking him up there wasn't anything else I could have done and at 25kg I don't think I would have got on too well. And I needed to find the rider for ask for her details it was her sister that went bat shit. But that says more about her than me I guess.

I'm just glad that the incident didn't cause any worse injury or involve a child.

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dreichuplands · 17/06/2019 15:09

Glad the dog isn't suffering any complications today.
It definitely wouldn't be a good idea to leave a dc in charge of a large dog around horses they don't know.
Dc themselves are much less likely to spook horses if that is what you mean, although it is always sensible to give horses their space.

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