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Is anybody 'double married' to the same person?

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KennDodd · 15/06/2019 16:58

In that has anybody got married in two different jurisdictions to the same person?

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TheHodgeoftheHedge · 15/06/2019 19:44

Gov UK’s advice on getting married abroad...
If you’re a British national getting a marriage or civil partnership abroad, you might need certain documents from the UK government, for example a certificate of no impediment (CNI).

Use this tool to find out how to get the documents you’ll need.

You’ll need to contact the local authorities where you want to get married to find out what you need to do.

Your marriage or civil partnership will be recognised in the UK if both of the following apply:

you followed the correct process in the country where you got married
it would be allowed under UK law

PerspicaciaTick · 15/06/2019 19:47

There’s some system where all marriages between british citizens are automatically sent to the UK for recognition
There is no such thing. You would just use your US marriage certificate to prove you are married. We don't "log" overseas marriages of British citizens.

KennDodd · 15/06/2019 19:49

I wonder what happened when the SA/EU couple got divorced? I wonder if they told the divorce lawyer about both weddings and if they did how do they then go about divorcing them? If they did own up to two weddings I suppose they would then be admitting to committing fraud because if the 'previous marriage' question, this in itself might invalidate the UK marriage?

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KennDodd · 15/06/2019 19:55

you followed the correct process in the country where you got married
it would be allowed under UK law

The bit about being 'allowed under UK law' I suppose is about child marriage and polygamy?

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TaffyandTeenyTaffy · 15/06/2019 19:58

Friends of ours renewed their vows in Vegas for their 25th wedding anniversary with their children present. It was broadcast live on the internet so friends and family could login and watch. We got dolled up at home and had a couple of bottles of bubbly gathered around the laptop ...... lovely way to spend what would have otherwise been a dull Tuesday evening. Was just like a Vegas wedding and their vows were very personal.

My concern if you lie and the US authorities found out you could be deported and prevented from getting a Visa to re-enter the USA (no idea if this is true.... just a friend had a similar experience due to an error he made on his ESTA application)

KennDodd · 15/06/2019 20:00

Actually just remembered one other couple who had a double marriage. Not quite the same though as one was a religious certainty in one country and a legal one here. The religious wedding overseas was regarded as a real wedding by everyone in the local community and oddly had they just done the legal overseas wedding the local family/community would not have recognised this.

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KennDodd · 15/06/2019 20:03

I think the second wedding could be to complicated. Maybe we'll just do the renewal or not do anything. Vow renewals just seem a bit Katie Price.

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Thestral · 15/06/2019 20:09

I'm double married, UK then USA.

We wanted to get married in the US, but didn't as not all family would have been able to attend who wanted to (age, illness etc). So we got married here, then went to City Hall in NYC and got re-married, just the two of us, the way we originally wanted it.

We explained our situation to the clerk in NYC - it was perfectly legal, and apparently lots of people do it. We just had to show passports and a copy of our Uk marriage licence and we could go straight into the room.

It was perfect for us, and everyone was happy.

Dogsaresomucheasier · 15/06/2019 20:29

My brother and sister-in-law got married (legally,) once for themselves and then had a ceremony/blessing and party in each of their home countries to celebrate with both families without making people travel internationally. 3 lots of wedding photos, same outfits in all 3, different bridesmaids at each one. It was lovely, tasteful as they didn’t make huge demands of their guests and covered everyone who mattered.

KennDodd · 15/06/2019 20:34

@Thestral

Great to hear people do do this and I'm not mad! I wonder if it's the same in LV.

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 15/06/2019 20:38

The situation in Ireland sounds odd to the point that I'd be doubtful that that's the case. For example, an Italian married couple move to Dublin and their marriage is no longer recognised? There would surely be tax and inheritance implications with this?

Says the person who has quite frankly said some of the oddest rhings on this thread.

Renewing vows is a bit hollow - er not really but ok your oppinion

Los vegas as a venue because it seemed like a bit of a laugh. - now thats hollow!

I'm doubtful about your frankly very illegal amd dodgey inmigration stories and you question a completely legal situation in ireland

Here you go this the irish situation "Registration ofmarriages abroad. ...Marriagesthat take place outside the State are not normally registered inIreland"

Therefore you need a previous/second marriage in ireland for it to be legal. This is for irish citizans and people living in ireland at the time of the marriage. Maybe i wasn't clear.

Thestral · 15/06/2019 20:41

It's worth checking.

I thoroughly recommend it - it's just for the two of you, and felt like a wonderful little secret between us as no one else knew that we were planning it.

We had the best time! We wore outfits that we chose for each other from Target the day before, and I had a tiny little bunch of hydrangeas - strangers cheered us when we walked out of City Hall to the Subway. It was joyful!

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 15/06/2019 20:44

Here you go from the irish citizans advice

*If you or your partner are an Irish citizen(s) and are thinking of getting married outside of Ireland, you should realise thatthe legal validity of your marriage is governed, in part, by the laws of the country in which you plan to marry. In most, if not all cases, the legal formalities abroad are very different to those in Ireland. For example, a church marriage abroad is usually a purely religious ceremonywith no legal effect. Because it is not recognised in law in the country in which it takes place, it cannot be regarded as a legal marriage in Ireland. This is the case even though a marriage in the same church or denomination in Ireland can be legally binding.

It is very important, therefore, that youmake sure to meet all the legal requirementsof the country you are marrying in. You shouldcontact the civil registration officein that country to find out what is required*

KennDodd · 15/06/2019 21:06

@NaughtToThreeSadOnions

Calm down! No need to be so rude!

Registration ofmarriages abroad. ...Marriagesthat take place outside the State are not normally registered inIreland"

But registration and legally recognized are two different things surely?

From the snippets you posted the situation in Ireland doesn't sound any different to that in the UK. In that a religious wedding ceremony may not carry any weight if it doesn't conform to the law and is not legally recognized in the country it took place in. For example, a Irish Muslim couple have a Muslim wedding ceremony in the UK (this holds no legal weight in the UK without the legal register wedding as well). Although they would be regarded as married by friends and family and even Islamic courts in the eyes of the law in the UK they are not married, therefore their marriage is not recognised in Ireland. However if the same Irish couple, living in Ireland, went through a legal wedding in the UK I find it surprising that this wouldn't then be legally recognised in Ireland.

Maybe you're right but I'm still not convinced.

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 15/06/2019 22:17

You've been pretty rude yourself op

KennDodd · 15/06/2019 22:46

Where have I been rude? If I have I apologise.

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IGottaSeeJane · 15/06/2019 22:59

Had a cousin who was Catholic and married a Greek Cypriot. Had two weddings RC one and a Greek Orthodox one. Both went on for hours!

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