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Horrible experience with Flybe - most effective way to complain?

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Booboostwo · 13/06/2019 21:48

DH, DD, DS and I were flying with Flybe today. I know it’s low cost airline but we paid €2,700 for our return tickets (short haul in Europe) so not really low cost and the way they treated us was appalling for any kind of airline. The short version is that’s I am looking for the most effective way to complain if anyone has any advice. Fuck off Daily Fail.

The long version:
The woman at the check in seemed to be in a bad mood, not too sure why. She had to come out from behind the desk to put a tag on DD’s wheelchair and she huffed and puffed about that, then tutted over DD’s walking aid (had been pre-booked with the assistance form so there was no reason for her attitude).

Then she weighed the hold luggage. One at 17.9, one at 11.7 and one at 25kg. She told us we had to pay £30 in excess luggage for the third one. I explained that the weight should be shared between the bags but she refused to accept that. I offered to show her the Flybe terms and conditions stating this but she refused.

Here they are if you are interested:
www.flybe.com/baggage/baggage-terms

I told her that Ryanair had been fined for exactly this violation and it was illegal but she said Flybe was not Ryanair.

She directed us to her supervisor in another desk but the supervisor refused to comment unless we waited in the queue to see her. There was a massive queue for the supervisor, we had already waited a very long time for check in so we decided to pay the fine.

As the third bag was being weighed I took a photo of the weight reading, just that and nothing else. At this point the woman lost it, shouted “That is it!” And went to get the supervisor. They refused us entry on the plane on the grounds that I had upset the woman when I told her she was doing something illegal.

I never shouted, nor was I rude, nor did I use swear words, nor was I threatening, and they didn’t claim that, they just said that the woman was upset from being told she was doing something illegal and therefore we couldn’t fly.

I apologized for upsetting her and she still wouldn’t let us travel until I deleted the photo, which was not of her. She said it was illegal to take photos in a secure area. Even then she had to think about whether she was willing to let us travel and she took her time to make her mind up. She was really awful.

For what it’s worth there were no signs saying photography is not allowed at check in, nor is there anything to say this at the Manchester airport website. Google suggests that even police officers do not have the right to make you delete a photo.

I want to complain not just about the baggage charge which was against their terms and conditions but also about the woman’s attitude and how she abused her position by threatening to refuse to let us travel.

Just to repeat, never during all this was I rude, or loud, or threatening in anyway and neither the woman nor the supervisor claimed that I was.

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GrumpiestCat · 12/09/2019 08:10

Take it to the ombudsman. Also Resolver on MSE is brill. Good luck.

Booboostwo · 12/09/2019 08:15

I am going through AviationADR which is their disputes resolution service.

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 12/09/2019 11:09

Have you thought about the social media route?

I'm sorry for your experience btw.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Booboostwo · 12/09/2019 12:02

I thought this was going to be the easy bit! The check in lady didn’t know the T&Cs, Flybe would just apologize and refund me...how wrong was I?!

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Soola · 12/09/2019 12:30

Instead of telling the Daily Mail to eff off in your opening post you should have told them of your story and they would have helped you get it sorted.

Live and learn! Smile

eenymeenyminyme · 12/09/2019 13:24

Doesn't the photo you took have a date tag on it?

I've got an android phone and you view the photo, then click on the 3 dots and choose 'details'. It tells you there the date and time the photo was taken.

Hope that helps!

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 12/09/2019 13:30

Did they email you with their T+Cs amongst all the booking bumf? That will have a date on if they did

BonnesVacances · 12/09/2019 14:00

I would have thought there'd be an onus on them to prove that the t&cs at the time were clearly stated in line with the policy enforced at the airport.

Good luck.

MummytoCSJH · 12/09/2019 14:15

I was going to mention that when I saw your picture - the fact there is no date and I'm afraid they may get away with it due to that - the details of the photo show when it was taken but the OP could also have downloaded it from anywhere on that date meaning it could have been old at that point. Saying that they should prove they were in line at the time as they WILL have records of when it changed and they know it. Push through!

Booboostwo · 12/09/2019 15:34

I have a date stamp on the iCloud with the date the photo was taken and automatically saved on there.

Namechangeforthiscancershit the email confirmation of the ticket just has a link to their website for T&Cs.

I am tempted to copy a link to this bread as there is a date/time other posters accessed the site and saw the T&Cs as they were.

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Booboostwo · 12/09/2019 15:37

I might try the Citizens Advice Bureau.

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Booboostwo · 14/10/2019 14:59

So I heard back from the adjudicator and they found for the airline.

Apparently I didn't provide any evidence of the T&Cs at the time of booking - perversely the only evidence I could have provided was the website which was then changed.

Apparently my photo was not dated despite the date it was saved on the Cloud.

Apparently this thread does not count as evidence.

These people are unbelievable. Onto small claims court I go.

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MummytoCSJH · 14/10/2019 15:16

I suspected as much in regard to the 'dated' photo. Sorry OP :(

CadburysTastesVileNow · 14/10/2019 15:24

Ah well, Mumsnet has 1.2 billion page views per year.

I'm sure there are many Mumsnetters crossing Flybe and Manchester Airport off their travel plans now.

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