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MOT retest - help!

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GunpowderGelatine · 10/06/2019 12:16

Took my car for its MOT on Friday and the guy testing it said that we need new front tyres "yesterday"but he was passing it and putting the tyres down as an advisory. I booked the tyres to be changed today however due to illness I've had to rearrange. When I rang they said I was booked in for a retest! It's been years since I took a car for a MOT and the piece of paper I have says "pass". I've checked the gov.uk website too and it says it's MOT'd until June 2020 - but could he be right and I need a retest or will it be an error?

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GunpowderGelatine · 10/06/2019 12:17

This is what the government website says

MOT retest - help!
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freshstartnewme · 10/06/2019 12:22

Ask them why they want to retest it. It passed the MOT.

Are you having the tyres done at the same place that did the MOT?

SavoyCabbage · 10/06/2019 12:24

Surely it’s just a mistake then.

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TrixieFranklin · 10/06/2019 12:25

The garage have fucked up. They've passed it on the assumption that you'd get the tyres done to save time on the paperwork and now you haven't. They could get in trouble for passing a car which isn't road worthy and have fudged the paperwork to say your tyres were an advisory and not an actual fail.

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GunpowderGelatine · 10/06/2019 12:26

I am, yes.

It was a different guy on the phone this morning who just said the appointment was for tyres and a retest but didn't know anything more than that

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GunpowderGelatine · 10/06/2019 12:27

@TrixieFranklin the tyres are within the legal limit but won't be for much longer. I decided to book an appointment with them, they're didn't ask or insist I did

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freshstartnewme · 10/06/2019 12:30

They've passed it on the assumption that you'd get the tyres done to save time on the paperwork and now you haven't

They haven't done this at all. They have passed it with the tyres as an advisory because that's the category they fall into.

OP check the details of the MOT online, what code is on the advisory

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GunpowderGelatine · 10/06/2019 12:39

@freshstartnewme a 5.2.3(e) according to my certificate

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ClarkeMurphy · 10/06/2019 12:54

Probably just a mistake by the person who made the booking. The paperwork you have says it passed with an advisory so it passed. The advisory doesn't mean it needs the work doing in order to be legal, it is a warning that this thing (in your case tyres) is likely to need sorting in the near future.

Your paperwork and theirs (which gets put on to the government system) all says it has passed. I'd accept that and not worry tbh.

Yabbers · 10/06/2019 17:13

I’d take it elsewhere to have them look at the tyres (or check them yourself)

Sounds like they are at it.

WoollyMollyMonkey · 10/06/2019 18:02

I don’t like the sound of this garage either, I’d go to Kwikfit or somewhere and ask them to look at the tyres.

justanswerthephone · 10/06/2019 18:14

They are not going to risk their MOT status by putting an advisory on for tyres if they don't for the criteria. It is absolutely no benefit to them. An advisory means you can legally drive the car away and are not obliged to have the car fixed there, or even at all until necessary.

Don't go to Kwik Fit, they are the biggest shower of sharks going.

Local independent or prefer from black circles and have them fitted and an Indy.

But as it's an advisory your tyres are legal for now anyway.

justanswerthephone · 10/06/2019 18:14

*order from black circles

Johng7utg · 10/06/2019 19:20

Right your car has PASSED its MOT...and you have a print out certificate saying it has passed. An advisory means exactly that...any faults or worn parts that are listed as advisory means that...at the time the vehicle was inspected...those parts were deemed serviceable....BUT...they will need attention as soon as possible.
Alot of people dont realise this.....the MOT certificate only relates to certain items at the time of the test....it is not a guarrentee that the vehicle is roadworthy 2 hours later.....most worn parts that are given as .....on advisory....are serviceable at the time of test....but most likely wont go another service.....The way testers usually think.....will this part last till next service...if yes then pass it....if any doubt at all....then either an advisory or in bad cases.....fail.
Advisory is just that these parts need checking again soon........but for this test.....they pass.

justanswerthephone · 10/06/2019 19:28

The way testers usually think.....will this part last till next service...if yes then pass it....if any doubt at all....then either an advisory or in bad cases.....fail.

That's not how it works at all. MOT tests are not based on what the tester thinks . There are criteria which each tested part must reach. The inspection manuals are available online to view. There is absolutely no room for how long the tester thinks a part will last. It is very strictly regulated.

And what the hell is all the '...'?

Wolfie2k · 10/06/2019 23:23

The majority of comments here are correct, in that the mot tester has passed your vehicle and it is now 'legal' on the road.

The mot tester has told you that they have passed the vehicle BUT you need to get the tyres changed asap.

This means that they should have failed the vehicle but, in a way to save you and them, time and money by stopping the need for you to go back to the garage for your retest (which is free within 10 days), they have passed the vehicle.
They are also trusting that you get the tyres changed for your own safety.

"They are not going to risk their MOT status by putting an advisory on for tyres if they don't for the criteria. It is absolutely no benefit to them. An advisory means you can legally drive the car away and are not obliged to have the car fixed there, or even at all until necessary"

It is of benefit to them and you if they advise a 'just' illegal tyre, if they failed it you would have to go get a new tyre and return to the garage for your free retest which costs them for another mot slot and both parties time.

Wolfie2k · 10/06/2019 23:25

Also it could be a way for the garage to try and build trust with a customer, like chucking in a bulb or two for nothing...

justanswerthephone · 10/06/2019 23:28

The mot tester has told you that they have passed the vehicle BUT you need to get the tyres changed asap.

No. They have passed the vehicle and given an ADVISORY for the tyres. This does not mean repair ASAP. It means 'monitor and repair if necessary'

This means that they should have failed the vehicle but, in a way to save you and them, time and money by stopping the need for you to go back to the garage for your retest (which is free within 10 days), they have passed the vehicle.

No it does not. Absolutely crap.

The tyres were an ADVISORY item; NOT a fail. Not an almost fail but the garage were being nice. An ADVISORY.

ClarkeMurphy · 10/06/2019 23:46

Passing the MOT
If your vehicle passes the MOT:
• you’ll get an MOT certificatete_ from the test centre*
• it will be recorded in the MOT database
You might also get a list of ‘minor’ or ‘advisory’ problems to monitor or fix in the future.

From https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

Advisory items do not mean it shouldn't have passed!

Hillary4 · 11/06/2019 08:56

BUT, on the tyres, never get them where you had the MOT before you get an online cost
I look at Black Circles and Mytyres
Usually get 30% cheaper than the big boys, and nominate them to fit them

LaminateAnecdotes · 11/06/2019 09:33

MOT or not, you can still be prosecuted for worn tyres - with points on the licence.

An MOT is merely a piece of paper saying the car was safe to a minimum standard on the day of test - nothing more, nothing less. It's only real significance is you need one in order to legally use a car that requires one on the public road.

Personally I'd be a tad wary of taking my car to a place whose business is selling tyres and asking their advice on whether I need tyres. But that's probably just me Grin.

justanswerthephone · 11/06/2019 09:49

MOT or not, you can still be prosecuted for worn tyres - with points on the licence

The tyres were legal. An advisory. Which means keep an eye on it and fix when necessary.

Nobody is going to get done for having tyres on that are legal.

LaminateAnecdotes · 11/06/2019 09:58

The tyres were legal.

At the time of test. They could be illegal 10 minutes later ...

Nobody is going to get done for having tyres on that are legal.

No. People will be done for having tyres that are illegal.

I've known folk who have swapped tyres to get an MOT, then swapped them back to sell the car "privately". Especially on a high end car where a set of tyres can be £500, there's a strong incentive.

justanswerthephone · 11/06/2019 10:05

We are talking about an advisory on the MOT. Advisory which means you monitor and repair as necessary.

If someone gets an advisory and ignores it, then yes the tyres will eventually become illegal, but that's not what is happening here.

I've known folk who have swapped tyres to get an MOT, then swapped them back to sell the car "privately". Especially on a high end car where a set of tyres can be £500, there's a strong incentive.

Not sure what the relevance of this is, it's clearly not what OP has done. There is also much worse then this happening. But for a standard, every day, run of the mill MOT with advisory for tyres, you just get them done when needed.

GeorgeTheFirst · 11/06/2019 10:14

They couldn't be illegal ten minutes later, don't be ridiculous. Not unless she did a few thousand miles in the ten minutes!

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