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Am I reading this right?

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DotOnTheHorizon · 09/06/2019 19:22

I'm not brave enough (or knowledgable enough) about trans ideology to brave the feminism board, so apologies in advance if this offends anyone.
I'm trying to gauge if I'm reading this extract right
"Don’t conflate sex and gender.
This concept is fundamental to the trans community and it’s simultaneously obvious and difficult to grasp. Sex is based on biology and assigned at birth, while gender is cultural and social, based on how a person self-identifies. This is, for many, perhaps the biggest obstacle to understanding by the cisgendered (that is, people whose sex and gender align)."

Does it mean that the author thinks that a person whose sex and gender aligns (or a man or a woman) finds it difficult to understand that sex and gender are different? Or is it just really poorly worded?

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Bezalelle · 09/06/2019 19:31

It's really poorly worded. "Cis gendered" isn't a thing. Sex isn't "assigned" at birth. It is observed - male or female according to genitalia.

Come over to the Feminism board! We don't bite much

DotOnTheHorizon · 09/06/2019 19:39

I lurk around the feminism board, but I'm just beginning to try and understand what trans rights are and how that impacts women's rights. So I don't feel confident chipping in as I sometimes find it hard to keep up with the debates.

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eurochick · 09/06/2019 22:17

I think your understanding is correct, but it is also poorly worded.

Anyone using "cis" is coming at this issue from a particular viewpoint. One that says "respect my pronouns but I will assign you a label of my choosing".

TheBullshitGoesOn · 09/06/2019 23:33

Try this thread (if you've not seen it before)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

DotOnTheHorizon · 10/06/2019 09:02

Thank you ....I thought I was going barmy!

Thanks for the link, I'll have a read through later.

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Bluntness100 · 10/06/2019 09:05

I think it's just saying the concept is difficult to grasp and factually that's true, many people don't understand it.

I'm really not seeing an issue with the statement on that point.

DotOnTheHorizon · 10/06/2019 10:35

I'm struggling because it ( to me) seems to imply that natal men and women find it hard to understand the difference between sex and gender.

My experience of Twitter suggests this is not the case. Lots of people seem to understand that sex is biological - it is hardwired in your DNA and that gender is a social construct - anyone can be as feminine or masculine as they want.

Life would be much easier if everyone could just live their life (quietly) in the way they want, accepting we are all different.

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