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Has anyone chosen to be a TA as a career straight from school?

54 replies

BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 17:45

My ds is thinking about this. He was planning to be a primary school teacher, but he has decided he doesn’t think university will be for him. So he’s considering other options. Has anyone got any experiences or knowledge that might be helpful to him?

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Foghoopy · 01/06/2019 17:48

He needs to look at doing a childcare qualification. Usually takes 1-2 years.

TA job roles have drastically changed over the years IME and they are now expected to do a huge amount of work and carry a vast amount of responsibility.

Sadly, the pay less not reflect this.

That aside, it's an incredibly rewarding job Smile

PeachNut · 01/06/2019 17:50

My daughter is an apprentice TA. After a year she will be qualified to a Level 3. She loves it.

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2019 17:52

The pay and conditions aren’t great but it’ll give him a great insight into what being a primary teacher is really like.

Is he 16 or 18?

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Danglingmod · 01/06/2019 17:55

Primary or secondary?

For primary, a childcare qualification and/or TA qualification would be ideal, though there are some TA apprenticeships around.

For secondary, a bit more life experience and a degree usually preferred (all the secondary TAs I know have degrees!)

floraloctopus · 01/06/2019 17:55

As a teacher I'd be reluctant to take somebody on as a TA who was straight from school without any experience so I really think he should look at a college course/NVQ first.

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2019 17:57

I assumed he would be doing an apprenticeship as a ta rather than applying for a job. Is that right?

Guylian2019 · 01/06/2019 17:57

Lots are being made redundant at the moment due to huge SEND and school budget cuts. We've just made one redundant. She's a qualified teacher with years of experience. I wouldn't be training for that role at the moment to be honest. Too risky.

BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 18:09

He’s just finishing 6th form. He’s had some mental health issues which mean that he’s probably going to get 2 Ds at A level at best, so no degree. He has been helping run a youth theatre for the last two years and has a job for the summer with a group that run music and art workshops for pre schoolers. He also coaches and referees youth football, and he’s hoping to do a diploma in Art and Design next year. So he will have something to offer. I don’t think he knows about apprenticeships- thank you. I’ll tell him to look into that.

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Danglingmod · 01/06/2019 18:17

Sounds like he has lots to offer, Bertrand.

How about some volunteering in a primary school alongside his art diploma for this year. Then he could look for either paid work next year or even think about an HE course as he'll have more UCAS points from the diploma. And will get good exp along the way of what teaching or TA work involves.

Or it sounds like an education officer role in a museum or cultural centre would suit him. There may be volunteering opportunities there, too.

BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 18:25

He’s actually been offered a day a week job next year supporting drama in a private school-they obviously don’t need qualifications. Might be a bit of a shock to his system going back to the state system after that though- they have resources and facilities to die for!

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BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 18:27

“Or it sounds like an education officer role in a museum or cultural centre would suit him”

That’s another brilliant idea- thank you! I can see him roaming around a castle dressed as a minstrel..,.,..

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Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 01/06/2019 18:35

I have 2 TAs - one’s in her early 20s, and became a TA after A levels. One’s a teenager who has just completed a childcare qualification, and so effectively started after sixth form. Both are great, though they do make me feel ancient.

What I would say is, many schools are simply not recruiting TAs - and that’s if they are not actively making TAs redundant. My more recent TA was recruited as a 1 to 1 - which may be a possible way in for you ds.

Re - museum education officer. These jobs generally require a degree, and a teaching qualification.

MitziK · 01/06/2019 18:39

Any reason why he can't focus on the coaching and art diploma in the meantime, with a view to attending university later? The diploma might give him enough for university entry anyway, or, if he needs more time, he could go in as a mature student once he's in his twenties - he'd be likely to get more out of it then, as well, one reason why mature applicants aren't necessarily required to have particular A Levels, and the Real World experience is something that massively benefits both learners and teachers alike.

I'd never recommend a TA post to somebody as a career - they're treated really poorly, IMO. But in terms of having experience for future job applications/university, he's already got that from everything else he does/has done.

What people don't tell teenagers is that they are usually only making decisions for the next couple of years, three if they're at university. When your performance is rated upon the grades and next destination of your students, it's counterproductive to say 'meh, if your results aren't fantastic, you can do an access course or apply a couple of years later when you know you definitely still want to do it'. There is nothing wrong with him focusing on his course and sport coaching for a while. He can still apply next year if clearing isn't for him/isn't successful if he's already applied. And the year after, etc.

Nothing is set in stone at 18. He has options - and I wouldn't see TA work, part time, inherently underpaid and vulnerable as something he feels he should settle for when he has hopes/dreams that the coming couple of years could make far more achievable.

AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 01/06/2019 18:42

Would he consider working with nursery aged children? I gather there's something of a recruitment crisis in nurseries.

Bit of a left field suggestion, but Norland College in Bath does a fantastic early years degree. Mixture of the practical and the academic, and the royals traditionally employ their graduates... The career opportunities are not to be sniffed at. Officially they want CCC in A Levels, but I've previously worked for a similar institution and let's just say that there was a fair bit of room for manoeuvre in terms of entry requirements... an informal enquiry as to whether or not they might be able to consider someone who doesn't meet the A Level grades would tell you if there was any point applying...

BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 18:51

I don’t think he’s seeing being a TA as “settling”. He genuinely loves working with children, and while he hasn’t ruled out a degree later on, he really struggles with the practicality of academic work-fine with reading and thinking and talking but writing it down and doing exams in it has proved practically impossible for him post GCSE. No additional needs despite plenty of testing- just depression and anxiety strongly linked to revision, exams and written work. Incredibly frustrating for him. But I think the apprenticeship route might suit him down to the ground.

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Danglingmod · 01/06/2019 18:55

Sounds like he should snap their hands off at the private school offer... Would be great experience and would potentially garner other opportunities...

BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 18:57

Oh yes- he’s definitely taking the private school job!

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BertrandRussell · 01/06/2019 19:17

And anyone who has ever met me on the education boards will appreciate the irony of me having a private school “teacher” for a child!

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Saucery · 01/06/2019 19:23

Would he be interested in some sort of Sports Development role? Many schools have a budget for this and may outsource sessions to that section of their local council. There would be more variation as likely to travel round different schools.

Danglingmod · 01/06/2019 19:23

Most definitely Grin

There are lots of interesting roles that (so long as you don't need to earn stacks of cash) he might be interested in or might come his way. Art technician in a school/after school and holiday club assistant/forest school assistant/museum guide/tour guide...

A couple of years of a 'portfolio career' would be great experience, good fun and a good way to explore different opportunities.

I wish him luck, OP.

Danglingmod · 01/06/2019 19:29

Sports development, teaching assistant and outdoor learning (sailing coach at PGL type place) roles seem to be available to apprentices in my neck of the woods.

A friend who's a careers advisor reminded me recently that all apprenticeships have to be advertised on a national website to be eligible for funding. Definitely worth checking out.

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2019 19:29

And anyone who has ever met me on the education boards will appreciate the irony of me having a private school “teacher” for a child!

Grin
Danglingmod · 01/06/2019 19:37

www.gov.uk/apply-apprenticeship

BlackPrism · 01/06/2019 19:46

Make sure you check what work will be required of the apprenticeship. I'm currently doing a journalism apprenticeship and am finding the diploma work harder than my masters degree tbh Blush

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2019 19:50

Ta apprenticeship work isn’t hard.