Alabama abortion law

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Alabama has just voted to ban abortion in almost all circumstances. I can't quite believe that I'm living well in to the 21st century when something like this happens.

Bloody hell. This is terrifying.
I know nothing about how US medical insurance works but would it be possible for them to travel to another state? (Obviously I understand that this isn always possible with funds etc but what I mean is can they be treated in another state?)
Roe v Wade is under genuine threat here.

It’s horrific. So depressing.

MrsPear - I've seen that argument quite a lot on pro-life sites. They use the existence of phenomenally rare cases where an ectopic pregnancy has apparently survived, at great risk to the mother, because it ended up somewhere other than the tube, plus cases where a suspected ectopic pregnancy turned out to be a false alarm, in order to convince women that ectopic pregnancy isn't dangerous and to manipulate them into refusing treatment. And hey, it's OK if you die in the process because Jesus will love you for sacrificing yourself for a cluster of cells.

I remember reading one particularly upsetting pile-on on a pro-life leaning discussion thread where a woman was trying to explain, based on her own experience, that ectopic pregnancy is hugely traumatic and the pregnancy just can't be saved. She got attacked by about a dozen sanctimonious idiots saying that she obviously didn't love her baby enough, and that, OK, they'd never actually had an ectopic pregnancy but, if they did, they knew for a fact that they'd force the doctor to carry out pioneering surgery to move the baby into the uterus, because that's what real maternal love is. It's fucking unbelievable.

The ban would include travelling to another state,. One thing that seems to have been missed is that this includes miscarriage if someone believes that the woman has caused it herself.

I'm glad to say that a lot of Americans find this reprehensible too?

I can not even begin to express how awful this is, how dare these men make such decisions ? I hope they all had vasectomies in order to prevent unwanted pregnancy and advised all the males they know to abstain or have vasectomies. But of course the won have because it is all the women's fault isn't it ? Men have no part to play in this other than to take rights away form women.

Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale was prophetic really. She saw all this was coming back in the 1980s - women are merely vessels for carrying babies, women will have no voice or rights, men will determine women's choices.

I follow Alyssa Milano on sm, she's been doing a lot of campaigning for several years now on this and other issues affecting women's rights in USA, she's had some shocking threats as a result.

It really does seem to be turning into a dystopia over there! Terrifying!

As someone who's had 2 mc inc 1 aged 18 an unplanned pregnancy and another involving an ectopic embryo these are not easy to go through even with support and good medical care, the thought of going through that AND being charged with a crime and all that entails is horrific!

I do not understand the majority of American people allowing this.

It's so backward and ignorant!

Would these white men (part of them at least being red though) be willing to bring up those babies born to women who do not wish to do so, whether it be the result of rape/incest/just the woman's choice? Surely they cannot force the woman to give birth AND then be happy to raise an unwanted child? Has this figured in their debates?

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/14/alabama-abortion-ban-white-men-republicans

Named and shamed.

They're not ashamed though that's the problem

www.dailykos.com/stories/1857883

That article sets it out.

Appalling

I’m sorry but no matter how much you believe that life begins at conception not making allowances for incest is just disgusting. I think that what a lot of people fail to understand though is that this isn’t a reflection on America as a whole though. Each state has its own legislature because it’s believed that people should be given as much choice as possible about how they want to live (to put it very simply). So it really is a reflection on what happens when you allow free movement between lots of different criminal jurisdictions. These jurisdictions can take more extreme measures (like criminalising abortion or allowing capital punishment) under the justification that it’s a part of the state culture and anyone who doesn’t like it can leave. Also worth pointing out the in many places elective abortion is still illegal, Britain included.

This is driven by a desire to control woman nothing more nothing less.