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Toxic bitter mum. Don't know how much I can take without vanishing completely.

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Rubiconmango · 06/05/2019 23:07

This is my first post. I just don't know what to do anymore. Long story short, I grew up in an abusive household with two very narcissistic control freak maniac and bullying neglectful parents. Both were always so self centred and caught up in their individual family dramas and family feuds with crossfire between both families, and me and my siblings were left to fend for ourselves against these parents when made scapegoats for their anger and frustrations. We also had to fight off extended members of the family who were allowed to bully us too.

Fast forward, we have matured into young women (being a family of girls with one younger brother and an 8 year old sister - the parents never stopped making the team because they never really raised any of us)!

Now that the time has come for us all to move on and get married; when the in laws to be are now visiting before the weddings, and the families are getting to know each other (for each of us), my dad has learnt to behave and socially is very well put together which works in our benefit to be honest.

My mother on the other hand is a tear away. She simply cannot stomach our happiness, is critical over the smallest of things (like the size of the salad tongs - in front of guests!!!!!), orders me and my siblings around IN FRONT OF GUESTS like the slaves she once used to enjoy controlling us to be, before we grew up, and MUST after meetings with the in laws to be, do nothing but spurt criticism about the new families, our hospitality and serving (which might I add, is impeccable because that's just something me and my siblings keep to a high standard, to ensure our guests feel welcomed and looked after). She is just waiting to combust when no attention is paid to her trying to spark negativity, and it isn't long before she creates a moment to tear away at the happiness with her bitterness and negativity.

It's exhausting. She spoils every happy occasion. She's lucky we as siblings have managed to find middle ground with her, and actually be civilised with her and let her share in our good times so to speak, but with such a massive change happening in our lives; her self pity party, criticism and attention seeking ways are doing nothing but causing anxiety, opening up old wounds that haven't fully healed... she's toxic.

Each of us is already dealing with old wounds in different ways. I'm personally getting counselling which feels like, I take on step forward, and when she behaves like this; it takes all the will in the world for me to not get pushed back ten! I can't stand her! But at the same time, I don't want to feel such negativity towards her either. I don't hold much expectation from her other than, she BEHAVES her sorry self now that it's our time to feel, enjoy and embrace the happiness we've found for ourselves.

She has always been a bitter woman for a million different reasons. Unlike my sisters, I do not feel I owe this woman anything after all of what she stole from me and how much of a poor excuse of a mother she has been to each of us.

I sometimes wonder, as amazing as my partner is and as much as he knows and understands my family dynamics; can I really get married into a family where the family are normal? How much can I really expect my partner to understand my routine down days purely as a result of the ongoing dramas and battles with my parents because they simply will not stop their nastiness. No family is perfect, but my partner actually comes from a loving home and some of the things he has come to know about mine, have left him is disbelief.

It's just exhausting and makes me deeply sad. My partner is very loving and does try to understand what he is able too. But I do at times feel embarrassed of my family dynamics. I also feel inferior going into a family where the parents respect their children and have raised them. I fear when my in laws come, my parents will embarrass me through their habits. I feel upset and hurt over this battle within my mine :(

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 06/05/2019 23:19

Can you keep meetings between your parents & in-laws to a minimum? Why do they need to meet?

And remember that your partner loves YOU.

pallisers · 06/05/2019 23:22

I wish I could wave a magic wand and give you better parents but no one can. Your mother will not change. You can do one of two things - you can utterly minimise any contact she has with your in laws or any person connected to you. get your dh to explain to his parents that your parents are very tricky and you would prefer them not to have to meet (his parents/family will love being the good/normal ones) and then simply say to your mother "no I have not organised for you to meet in laws - perfectly fine to meet at the reception" and then maybe do a deal with your sisters that they will police her during your wedding and you will do the same for them. As in moving in whenever they see her collaring one of the in laws or having a go at anyone. You could even yourself do a bit loudly and almost amusedly saying "oh mum you never change do you - always your unique self" when she does something rude or embarrassing.

Then after the wedding go the lowest contact you possibly can. Just don't engage. No one can make you. See her very very occasionally if you want. Make the occasional phone call or text but nothing more.

The second is you could simply cut her out, not invite her to the wedding. Say enough is enough.

I think you will eventually do that - but you don't have to do it before your wedding if you don't want to.

Rubiconmango · 06/05/2019 23:49

I think I accidentally private messaged you. New on here!

Thank you for the reminder :-)

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Rubiconmango · 06/05/2019 23:53

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

She is massively policed during these meetings.

I come from a Pakistani Family. I am very independent and do as I please. I also live outside the family home. But when it comes to weddings, it is normal for families to meet and is actually really lovely when you come from a normal family. But I don't. I could cut my parents out completely, and did when my loving partner and I decided to get married; say to him that my parents are not invited and he also explained this to his family and everyone was ok with it. But I then felt a sense of insecurity, and thought if ever in a future situation with my new family (hopefully highly unlikely), not having the 'support' of my parents, would make me vulnerable. I've never felt so insecure and inferior in my life until I met someone as loving as my partner. Up until I met him, I always went for men who came from equally if not worse families, so I never felt odd about my family dynamics. I wasn't gutsy enough to be with someone 'normal'. But this one came and never left! And as much as I love him, and know he loves me, I have started to feel inferior to his family, insecure, vulnerable and just sad

I just want to be able to do it the normal way without feeling so exposed by airing my family dynamics through making such decisions such as, the families can't meet, or reducing the meetings etc

It really does hurt

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Rubiconmango · 07/05/2019 00:04

I know once I am married, I will for sure reduce the contact to a bare minimum. Probably only come back on occasions. I don't have any doubts about that! It's just getting from here to there that is proving tricky.

It was only day before yesterday she tore down the whole house the day after my younger sisters in laws to be came, and it really sent my mind into overdrive about my own future family coming in just a months (two tops) time! My mother has nothing to lose and despite trying her best to put on a good show; if she became openly reckless... which normal person wants their future family to see that? This is such a happy time for me, yet it cannot be fully enjoyed in my family home with my siblings (and for my siblings with them getting married too), because this one human being cannot handle despite her spending her whole life not accepting us as her own, and chipping away at us; we have grown into upright well respected women who can handle our own. I refuse to tolerate it. I should never have tolerated it for over 20 years but I was young. I was learning. I'm now 31 and just want her to shut the f up and stop moping and taking a big dump right in the middle of a happy occasion because the big baby is not centre of attention, or because the rest of us can embrace people without being so critical, judgemental and nasty about them all the time like her :( :( :(

I feel guilty for even typing this but it's getting beyond being able to cope with now. Some days I feel like just giving up. It's much easier to recover from something when it has stopped. I am trying to recover from the wounds her and my dad inflicted, yet I am still dealing with new attacks so to speak :( :(

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pallisers · 07/05/2019 00:11

I just want to be able to do it the normal way without feeling so exposed by airing my family dynamics through making such decisions such as, the families can't meet, or reducing the meetings etc

I'd love you to have that too - but unfortunately you can't. It isn't your fault.

Well done to you for picking a loving normal man and a loving normal family to marry.

try to be dispassionate about it. Just ask yourself would I rather the normal two families meeting joyfully but knowing she will be a bitch or the different way with the families not meeting. There is no perfect option but there is a least worst option. Think which that is for you.

You might still chose the first one and then go nc/lc but you can choose the other too. If your fiance's family are nice they will know that people can have awful relatives and will support you.

Mosaic123 · 12/05/2019 09:22

I assume you have asked your fiance to gently explain how your parents are to his? Then they will be prepared.

ovenchips · 12/05/2019 10:20

I just want to do it the normal way without feeling so exposed by airing my family dynamics. Seems like what you want is something that does not exist, unfortunately: for your mother to behave well enough to make meet-ups with your future in-laws nice occasions.

Sadly, that is the reality, rather than the fantasy you would love and seem to need to happen. I think you need to acknowledge this fantasy and (painfully) give up the notion that your mum will come through for you in this scenario. You've tried it and although your dad is okay in these meet-ups, your mum isn't.

I think you need to try to get your head around this sad situation, and then as a PP said, choose the least worst option for you to arrange future meet-ups. This means not planning a meet-up and hoping this time will somehow be different with your mum. You may decide to include her anyway, realising she will still act badly; you may decide not to invite her and have a nice time but have a mum-shaped absence; you may decide something else.

You've already decided that post-marriage, you'll not be having much to do with your mother. It seems really hard for you to let go of your wish/ fantasy for these pre-marriage occasions to be 'normal' with two well-behaved parents. I think the need for that and its clash with reality is what is so hard for you, but also what you need to address to yourself.

Wishing you a wonderful wedding and future with your lovely husband-to-be.

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