I had a weird run in with one of those fathers 4 justice types 😬

[Overthewall]

Will keep some specifics vague as I don’t want every MRA on the net coming after me.

DD 15 had a party yesterday night. Her usual group of about 30 mates and some new faces. One of the girls mums text me and said thanks for the invite but it’s DDs weekend with her dad and he’s quite funny about her going out, I don’t think she can come. DD then tells me he’s some F4J type.

Anyhoo night of the party this girl does turn up with her dad. Most parents dropped off on the road and then left. He comes up with her to the door and starts grilling me about the who’s/how’s/where’s of the party. Was I the only adult? When I said yes his face could’ve turned milk.

He says goodbye to his DD and then sits directly outside the garden in his car for the next two hours . His poor DD was mortified. He got out twice to have a fag and watch her over the wall.

The whole thing was bloody creepy and controlling. He then gets out again and 10pm (an hour before the end) and tells her times up and she has to go.

The whole thing left me feeling so sorry for the poor bloody girl. If he’s that controlling with her no wonder the mum got out of there!

I'm not sure what it has to do with being a 'F4J type' but his behaviour does seem ott. Why not leave and come back for her at the said time? We're they all drinking?

I don’t think I’d be too happy with only one adult present at a teen party but maybe your daughters friends are very well behaved. If he was going to be so difficult he shouldn’t have let her go. But he did and frankly you don’t know him and it’s good that a father is involved - so many just drift away.

Should have called the police and told them some creepy guy was sitting outside watching a party of teenage girls .

MRA, F4J type... Do you frequent Reddit?

His behaviour was bizarre. But so is yours.

I'm not sure what it has to do with being a 'F4J type

Because it the main the ones I’ve met tend to have massive issues around control, women and ownership of the children. He was literally sat ten feet from her in his car, that’s weird in anyone’s book

I know I’m missing the point here but 30 mates plus some new faces-that’s a whole load of teenagers! What was the occasion?

Should have called the police and told them some creepy guy was sitting outside watching a party of teenage girls grin

I’ve sat outside parties before when it’s been to far to go home and there’s no handy cafe to sit in.

Sit and play on my phone. No ones called the police yet

@Overthewall actually I'd agree with you there, the only man I've known to be involved with F4J was violent, abusive and controlling, an unpleasant, bitter and frightening man. He abused his wife. Social services removed his children into care so I don't know if he would have behaved like your guy if he'd had the opportunity. He never got them back although he tried very hard and they did have some kind of relationship with him once they were over 18. He's dead now. I understand where you're coming from.

I don't think people are being fair to the OP. Sitting right outside in his car and watching is very different from not wanting to drive home and then come back. The man has acted like a total creepy control freak. I know just where you're coming from OP. His ex is well out of there!

@Overthewall Ah ok, I haven't ever encountered any myself so I just thought they were about gaining equal access to their children. My brother is currently fighting for access from a very irrational woman and the system has cheated him out of being able to see his daughter for the last two years whilst the mother manipulates the system.

Purpose of the party was where I was kind of being vague!

It didn’t come across as caring dad with nowhere else to go, it came across as controlling creepy weirdo!

Should have called the police and told them some creepy guy was sitting outside watching a party of teenage girls grin