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Taking DS on holiday 2weeks before SATS 2020

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Beanybye · 22/04/2019 08:26

We’ve booked a much needed family holiday to Florida for next April. It’s a once in a life time trip and the only way we could afford it is to go during term time.

DS is a bright lad,no concerns raised about his academic ability. I can’t remember the terms they use now but he’s ‘above’ where he ‘should be’ in maths and reading and at the ‘right’ level in writing. Not that any of that’s relevant.

Anyway, this holiday is 2 weeks after Easter so he’ll be off for a month then in school for a week and then it’s SATS.

At first I wasn’t bothered, DS gets stressed about these assessments so missing the build up to it (i think) will be a good thing. School don’t use it for secondary school streaming it’s used for league tables.

Being a goody goody myself I’m now a bit worried they’ll give me a hard time over it. Any experience? I don’t want to give you all a sob story but this holiday means a lot to us.

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Coconut0il · 22/04/2019 17:03

I'm a Year 6 TA and I would say have a fantastic holiday. If you don't know it two weeks before the test then you don't really know it. The tests cover the whole of the Key Stage 2 curriculum, that's 3 and a half years of schooling, two weeks of test prep will make no difference.
My own experience with DS2 is similar to a PP, he did really well in the tests after being pushed and pushed by his teacher (she had to get him to a level 5 as he had been given a level 3 at Key Stage 1) He is in Year 11 now and has had a constant stream of red coloured reports as he is not hitting the exaggerated targets he was given. The whole system is a mess.
I would go on your holiday and not feel one bit of guilt. The staff in my school would wish your DS a happy holiday.

FamilyOfAliens · 22/04/2019 17:13

two week amazing holiday v two weeks of SATS revision? No contest

The OP could do both if she went after SATs but that’s not convenient for extended family members, so instead the child is missing two weeks of preparation for assessments the OP admits he finds stressful so that those family members can go on the holiday too.

Parker231 · 22/04/2019 17:14

I asked earlier but no response - any teachers around? What happens when children are off ill during SATS?

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FamilyOfAliens · 22/04/2019 17:18

I’m not a teacher (I’m a family support worker) but I believe in our LA the child can sit the tests within a certain time when they are feeling better.

If it’s something like a broken arm, they can have an amanuensis.

Beanybye · 22/04/2019 17:23

FamilyOfAliens fuck of will you, you’re getting on my nerves now. You know nothing about my family life-have you not read between the lines, I said I didn’t want to give you a sob story, this is the only chance we’ll get to all have a holiday together. I also stated that I appreciated that you didn’t understand the full situation yet you’re still saying that my family isn’t prepared to compromise. You’re talking utter shit.

Thanks to other’s who have made supportive comments I’ve really appreciated them. I have taken on board some of the constructive negative comments too.

I’ve come away from this feeling confident that this is the right thing for our family, DS won’t suffer any ill effects from it and actually I think this will all work out for the best.

Just to finally add as it seems to have been lost along the way, DS will actually be in school for the SATS and for the week before it and I’ve previously stated that I’ll do prep work during the Easter holidays (if I can be bothered 😉).

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SnapesGreasyHair · 22/04/2019 17:23

Well...l personally think it's disgraceful taking them out of school when they have so many holidays....

.... and then l did exactly that Feb just gone for Disney America too. I felt SO guilty but l can now completely understand why parents do it.

Infact I'm doing it again in 2021. Grin

If you're doing the Disney thing... there is a really good FB group called it's Orlando time.

Beanybye · 22/04/2019 17:25

Parker231 DS broke his arm during assessment week last year, he dictated to the TA and then managed to finish the later ones writing with his left hand. I don’t know what’d happen if you were too ill to attend sorry.

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Beanybye · 22/04/2019 17:30

SnapesGreasyHair fantastic,thank you I’ll take a look.

Life’s just far too short to miss opportunities like this. This is what life’s about surely? What’s all the work and effort for if you can’t pause for a moment to spend special time with your loved ones. It’d be different if it were GCSEs or A levels. He’s 10, it’s SATS, it’s not even the SATS, it’s 2 weeks in the run up to the SATS!

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booellesmum · 22/04/2019 17:31

I have been through sats twice - kids now 17 and 14.
I still don't get the need to spend extra time preparing for them.
The job of the school is to teach to a decent standard consistently up to that point so there should be no need for stress and cramming.
The only extra above standard school work should be looking at a few past papers to understand the format of the test.
Kids do not need to be put under so much pressure, and our job as parents is to make sure they don't.
Enjoy the holiday and making memories.

titchy · 22/04/2019 17:32

Funny how 'much needed family holidays' are always to somewhere really expensive and therefore only affordable in term time. If your family is in that much need of a holiday an Easter break in the U.K. would do the job perfectly well.

Likewise folk travelling to South East Asia to 'find themselves'. Why can't you find yourself hiking the Pennine Way.

Anyway as you were.

Beanybye · 22/04/2019 17:33

booellesmum Thankyou. I completely agree,I think a few practices so they can open the paper and it’s not completely new to them would be beneficial and I’ll do that with him if need be.

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SnapesGreasyHair · 22/04/2019 17:33

Oh .... and DS1 is in y11....and has not attended any GCSE revision sessions this Easter.... he also did amazingly well in SATS was bribed per answer with chocolate by LSA and he is now about to get a U in his GCSE exams.

Autism is not conducive to exam pressure or busy holiday times....

Coconut0il · 22/04/2019 17:33

@Parker231
This is from the guidance for 2019

Taking DS on holiday 2weeks before SATS 2020
SnapesGreasyHair · 22/04/2019 17:34

@Beanybye hve an amazing time
Inbox me if you want to ask anything

Beanybye · 22/04/2019 17:36

titchy that made me chuckle, you’ve got a point there! This is a bucket list type thing. We have had many ‘much needed’ holidays in the uk in school holidays and they’ve been fantastic too.

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BigSandyBalls2015 · 22/04/2019 17:39

I completely agree with previous posters who have said it’s not always beneficial to the child to do well in SATs. My DD was completely demoralised at her “bad” reports covered in red all through secondary school. We both wish she had been set more realistic targets.

Enjoy your holiday, family time is far more important than bloody SATS

Contraceptionismyfriend · 22/04/2019 17:54

Bloody hell. No wonder kids are having mental breakdowns before they hit their teens.

The SATS are bullshit. And it doesn't matter what the teachers, school or DoE think. You are the parent OP and unless they can prove that you are systematically neglecting your child's education then there's jack they can do.

I hope your son has the time of his life does absolutely standard on his SATS and as a result is never held to unrealistic and crippling expectations.

C0untDucku1a · 22/04/2019 17:54

Agree with titchy. It is just an excise. Have the courage of your convictions to say it is the only time we could afford to do this particular holiday.

I would like to quietly mention there is NO GOOD TIME to go on a family holiday in KS4. None at all.

BarefootHippieChick · 22/04/2019 18:01

I completely agree with those pp who say high sats scores aren't necessarily a true reflection of your child's abilities. Currently struggling with dc GCSE targets being way above what they are actually capable of in some subjects due to this. Dd isn't actually due to sit GCSEs until next year but is already convinced she has 'failed' in these subjects. She also finds it extremely unfair that her targets are higher than the other students in her class even though she is no cleverer in the subject than they are.
Second dc will be doing Sats next month. Our 'homework' practice papers have gone in the recycling. I didn't buy any revision books. We have spent Easter holidays simply chilling. School have been practising test papers and having extra lessons since September. Complete overkill. Kids are bored and tired of year 6. The only upside is that they all can't wait to get to secondary to actually learn something and have fun in lessons again.

So go and enjoy your holiday. You won't regret it and I'm sure your ds will be fine.

FamilyOfAliens · 22/04/2019 18:03

FamilyOfAliens fuck of will you, you’re getting on my nerves now.

Grin
BarefootHippieChick · 22/04/2019 18:06

Also to parker my dc missed some exams due to illness and had to resit the following week with another dc who was also off ill.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 22/04/2019 18:09

Did someone actually try to compare Disney World Florida with a UK break 😂

I've had some fantastic breaks in the UK and haven't been lucky enough to go to Disney but even I know they're no where near comparable. especially to a 10 year old!

Livvylovesgin · 22/04/2019 20:09

I love this Michael Rosen poem which kinda sums up testing kids and our skewed 'education' what education system.

You get education in schools.

To find out how much education you get,

the government gives you tests.

Before you do the tests

the government likes it if you are put on

different tables that show how well or badly

you are going to do in the tests.

The tests test whether they

have put you on the right table.

The tests test whether you know what you’re

supposed to know.

But

don’t try to get to know any old stuff like

‘What is earwax?’ or ‘how to make soup’.

The way to know things you’re supposed to know

is to do pretend tests.

When you do the pretend tests

you learn how to think in the way that tests

want you to think.

The more practice you do,

the more likely it is that you won’t make the mistake

of thinking in any other way other than in

the special test way of thinking.

Here’s an example:

The apples are growing on the tree.

What is growing on the tree?

If you say, ‘leaves’, you are wrong.

It’s no use you thinking that when apples are on a tree

there are usually leaves on the tree too.

There is only one answer. And that is ‘apples’.

All other answers are wrong.

If you are the kind of person that thinks ‘leaves’ is a

good answer, doing lots and lots and lots of practice tests

will get you to stop thinking that ‘leaves’ is a good answer.

Doing many, many practice tests will also make it

very likely that there won’t be time for you to go out

and have a look at an apple tree to see what else

grows on apple trees. Like ants. Or mistletoe.

Education is getting much better these days

because there is much more testing.

Remember, it’s ‘apples’ not ‘leaves’.

SlappingJoffrey · 22/04/2019 20:20

Funny how 'much needed family holidays' are always to somewhere really expensive and therefore only affordable in term time. If your family is in that much need of a holiday an Easter break in the U.K. would do the job perfectly well.

They're not. I've seen people on here talk about not being able to afford even a UK break in school holidays, not that the UK is always the cheaper option anyway. I mean, it'd be cheaper than this particular holiday, but sometimes it can be pretty dear.

Eateneasterchocsalready · 22/04/2019 20:27

Go and have great holiday. Surely sats are supposed to be gage of general education lessons... going away two Weeks before shouldn't impact on those grades at all!!