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Prue Leith wants to ban school packed lunches?

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SneakyGremlins · 29/03/2019 18:08

Good luck with that.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/amp/47733670

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formerbabe · 29/03/2019 19:00

To pay for school lunches would cost me £90 a month for two children. I can make packed lunches for much less.

IJustWantToWearDungarees · 29/03/2019 19:00

Crikey. The dinners at my son's school are awful: pizza and chips, burger and chips, fish and chips. And cake for pudding every day. Very beige and carb heavy. I think she needs to have a better look at school dinners before making them the only option available to children.

Jackshouse · 29/03/2019 19:01

I bet she has not seen what is served in most secondary schools. Personally I would not want to be eating so unhealthily 5 days a week. When I was teacher I would not have been able to afford it. It’s only VAT free for students and I had meetings and work to do at lunch time.

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SmallFastPenguin · 29/03/2019 19:04

When I worked in a nursing home we weren t allowed to offer only one option as it was considered disrespectful and institutional but apparently its fine for children.

MoniqueTonique · 29/03/2019 19:04

Our school did this for a while (I'm a TA) Lots of children very hungry and unable to concentrate in the afternoons because they wouldn't eat the cooked lunches. We've gone back to a choice of school dinner or packed lunch from home and it is so much better. My own DS would have starved there, he had sensory issues with food. He's now a strapping 15 yr old who tucks into most things (including curry!) so I really don't believe it causes any long term damage.

WitchSharkadder · 29/03/2019 19:05

There are so many issues with this it’s unreal; picky eaters, affordability, SN related food issues, allergies...

I teach in a primary school and I wouldn’t eat what they serve up so why do we make children? I certainly wouldn’t pay £2.30 a day for it.

Besides, the packed lunch I send my DCs with is healthier than what’s served!

Laquila · 29/03/2019 19:05

Crikey, Natsku. My son’s school serves a pudding every day as far as I can tell - usually cake or an iced biscuit with custard 🙄 God only knows why they think this promotes healthy eating habits. Do you mind if I ask what part of the world you’re in?

Natsku · 29/03/2019 19:07

It's not unworkable, it works here just fine, but it would require quite an adjustment period which would make it unworkable because everyone would complain too much and it would be cancelled before it could work.

Natsku · 29/03/2019 19:10

@Laquila Finland. They've done this for decades (and the menus haven't changed much!) so the children know this is what to expect.

LoveYouLovely · 29/03/2019 19:10

School meals ( secondary) are not pleasant or healthy, but they are expensive compared to making your own. Chips, pizza, samosas, cold pasta ever single day. The hall is like a zoo - noisy and boisterous with lots of pushing in. And if your class is last in, you wait til quarter to two- having had breakfast at 6:45.
I have to strictly calorie control my DC's diet so can best do that when I feed him myself through a packed lunch.

mrsstephens89 · 29/03/2019 19:13

My kids wouldn’t have eaten any lunch had we not given them a packed lunch full of food they enjoyed

SauvingnonBlanketyBlanc · 29/03/2019 19:14

What @MadameAnchou said

YetAnotherThing · 29/03/2019 19:15

My daughter’s state school rolled this out about 5 years ago for new joiners, so only top years allowed packed lunch. It seems to work fine, and is all veggie. There’s two choices usually and it’s good quality. I think the fussy eaters do end up caving in as all their mates having similar and the other option is to go hungry, although it’s a stressful few weeks to statt

Prequelle · 29/03/2019 19:15

Until school dinners are of better quality and more standardised then this is just ludicrous.

I'm already a bit iffy about how much power schools are given.

bookmum08 · 29/03/2019 19:19

No. Daft idea. My daughter wouldn't eat much and if I was a kid now (I was very fussy eater) every lunch time would be hell.
People eat different things. Some people don't eat certain foods - religious reasons, lifestyle reasons, allergies or they simply don't like that food. Schools would really be able to offer vegan meals to cover all the different diet needs - and that wouldn't even cover the many different allergies.
If schools then do start making exceptions for children with allergies, other medical needs or sen, religious reasons, the only have organic kids, the veggie kids, vegan kids and so on then 50% of the school would probably come under those exceptions. So why bother?
It is just a silly idea.

mbosnz · 29/03/2019 19:19

I'm a touch iffy on just how much I trust the gluten free option to actually be gluten free. And then the other one is borderline food phobic. So I think maybe I'm doing the state a favour taking the cost and burden in general, of catering to their needs and tastes off their hands.

ForalltheSaints · 29/03/2019 19:36

I can see the point in what Prue Leith is getting at, given the level of childhood obesity and also of child poverty in the UK. The only issue to me is that where school catering is so poor I would not wish to force it on anyone, child or adult.

SauvingnonBlanketyBlanc · 29/03/2019 19:42

The dinners in the school that I work in are varied and look tasty.Main meal choice,jacket potato with fillings,unlimited salad/pasta bar,sandwiches plus choice of puddings..but..a lot of kids simply like familiar food brought from home and I dint think its fair to change that.

eurochick · 29/03/2019 19:42

My child's school (private) doesn't allow packed lunches. There is a main option and a veggie choice each day. I was worried as we went into reception that my little fusspot wouldn't eat anything. And that would be awful as she gets properly "hangry". But to my surprise it's been largely fine and has broadened her horizons a bit. I wish they wouldn't serve a pudding every day though.

SauvingnonBlanketyBlanc · 29/03/2019 19:42

Don't not dint!

TeacupDrama · 29/03/2019 19:45

loads of research has shown the average packed lunch is lower in nutrition than school dinners in over 80% of cases
most packed lunches had very little protein
average packed lunch ( not a MN lunch) is 2 slices of white bread with butter/ spread and either jam. 1 slice of ham or cheese with a squash type drink a packet of crisps and some sort of cake/ biscuit less than 50% have any form of fruit or veg
the cheese sandwich may have enough protein but the ham needs to be 1 thick slice or 3 wafer thin slices so on that basis 2 sausages mashed potatoes and baked beans is streaks ahead

we are in Scotland school lunches are fine at DD's state primary; there are only chips on fridays it is a three week cycle, there is 1 roast dinner, 2 x pasta, 3 x fish, pizza and burger once in 3 week cycle 1 curry, steak pie, fajitas, omelettes meatballs or mince there are 2 veg every day which are compulsory there is always a vegetarian alternative along the same lines so tomato pasta when its spaghetti bolognese, cheese and leek pie instead of steak pie, quorn burger

3 times a week you can have homemade soup as a starter instead of a pudding
puddings cake type 1-2 times a week, fruit and yogurt twice a week then either stewed fruit and custard or fruit and ice-cream
they are £2.20 but free for P1-3, so £11 per week which can be expensive for lower income families just above the free school meal level

Laquila · 29/03/2019 19:53

That’s interesting Natsku, thanks. I am fascinated by this kind of thing - I once fell into a lengthy instagram black hole on school lunches/packed lunches throughout the world.

Fudgenugget · 29/03/2019 19:57

Our DD is in secondary school. She tried the school meals but found they were universally horrible. Also, unless she ran down to the cafeteria chances are she’d be waiting the whole lunch hour to get a meal, as the queues are LONG. The snacks are expensive too. They sell 2 Oreos for 50p. They can jog on.

DD has a meat or cheese salad sandwich (brown bread), low fat crisps, at least two portions of fruit or veg, and a small chocolate biscuit like a Penguin. She also takes a water bottle (school has water fountains everywhere). The school has indoor and outdoor dining facilities for kids with packed lunches, and she spends her lunch hour with friends.

Natsku · 29/03/2019 20:12

If schools then do start making exceptions for children with allergies, other medical needs or sen, religious reasons, the only have organic kids, the veggie kids, vegan kids and so on then 50% of the school would probably come under those exceptions.

Religious diets are probably catered for already surely, and then allergies are only a small proportion which could be easily catered for. The way it works here is that the parent needs to bring a doctor's note to the school kitchen if their child needs a special diet and no doctor is going to write a note for organic food only.

DailyMailSucksWails · 29/03/2019 20:13

Most the foods being listed here... DS wouldn't eat.
Bread rolls, I guess. Salty & often low fibre. He'd probably eat those to get by.

I don't really care if he skips lunch completely, but I understand this is bad for his learning.

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