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near miss with dodgy childcarer?

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slightlyboggled · 28/03/2019 00:26

I'm a parent at a parent-run playgroup/care facility where kids attend with parents but those >3yrs can be left with the paid staff member.

Every year they typically get a couple of students in from the local place that offers childcare degrees, doing a practical placement. The arrangement is typically pretty informal as the local institution expects the students to set things up themselves.

Late last week someone sent an email to the playgroup saying they were a local student looking for a placement.

She came in on Monday morning to talk to the president and paid staff member. I had a brief flash of déjà vû when I saw her face but put it down to (me) having lived in 9 towns in the last 18 years.

She showed particular interest in the older children, saying she has a 6 year old of her own, and giving quite a lot of detail about being a young teenage mother from a big family in an identified town. She seemed inept in dealing with the older kids though, and walked through groups of younger children like they were furniture in the way. Among the questions being asked were "can you drive?" in case an emergency trip for a child is required (it occasionally happens that a child needs to go to a doctor, parent has no car, taxi won't take child without car seat, bus route too far, etc). She said yes, she can drive.

On Tuesday she called up to say that her daughter had been in a terrible car crash and was in an induced coma. Thus she was unable to take up the placement.

I thought "how dreadful, poor woman, poor daughter, poor family". Looked up the news for the town expecting to see something about the car crash. Nothing, and indeed nothing about a car crash with the details given, anywhere, on Monday or Tuesday. I thought "odd, but either the news hasn't covered the crash, or at worst, this is probably a teenager being fanciful after getting a better offer".

Last night I remembered where I'd seen her face - in the garden of a local rather dodgy house, standing round chatting with the bunch of dodgy men in hoodies who stand round there all day apparently not doing much (but disappearing quickly if, say, a police car drives past).

I looked up her name - instantly retrievable on Facebook, with photos of her that are absolutely recognizable. If what is on there is correct, she gave birth for the first time in December last year, she is late twenties; and the next hit when searching for her (pretty identifiable) name, is that she is currently on bail for numerous pretty serious charges of drink driving.

Should this be being reported to the police?
Or do I just think lucky escape?

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OldAndWornOut · 28/03/2019 00:30

Would she not have had a dbs check?

Samind · 28/03/2019 00:32

Maybe first child in care? Or difficult situation. No idea why she'd like about that.

I assume they're all police checked before going on placement. Did you make these checks with her education facility first?

I'm sure you're probably glad that she's not with you now. Have you contacted the educational facility since this happened?

slightlyboggled · 28/03/2019 00:35

It wasn't my job to go through that - I was also running round after my child and a couple of others - so assumed that this had been covered by the president and paid staff member.

THe whole thing looks a bit weird. Locally the childcare qualification is a 2 year thing where they do placements in the second year. Distance learning isn't an option at that institution. Based on her Fb profile and the newspaper reports about the drink driving, she didn't live here last year, and didn't live within commuting distance of anywhere that offers a similar qualification. I guess she could be returning to it after a while off or something. But she does appear to have lied about the car accident, driving, about (not) having a 6 year old, about having an unacknowledged young baby, about having any clue about how to relate to young children... Confused

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Abouttoblow · 28/03/2019 00:37

Surely she would never have been allowed to start without a DBS check and wouldn't the college have organised the placement? You don't just take people's word that they are students?

OldAndWornOut · 28/03/2019 00:37

I think you probably should report it to someone.
Not sure who, but someone.

slightlyboggled · 28/03/2019 00:37

I haven't contacted the institution as it's not my job and I only just pieced all these bits together. I guess I will have to assume I'm not mad and go discuss it with relevant playgroup people and get them to contact the institution.

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morewashingtodooo · 28/03/2019 00:49

What a lucky escape you've all had.
Not sure what they police my do, but you could pop to your local station and ask.
A family member has just got her third job in a nursery, don't have a clue how because she's been dismissed twice for being heavy handed with the children.

TheTeenageYears · 28/03/2019 01:21

I would say any email from someone looking for a placement should be followed up by the care facility with the educational institution that the person emailing is studying through to ensure even inviting someone into a care facility is who they say they are otherwise children are being put at risk of any Tom, dick or Harry being in what should be a safe environment.

No one aged 16 or above is allowed to engage in paid or unpaid work with children/vulnerable groups without a DBS check which is specific to each care setting.

I would say this is an utter failing on the part of the care facility and I would report them to Ofsted. They could then follow up with the specific details of this possible imposter. I’m presuming it’s still Ofsted responsible for safeguarding but if it’s not i’m sure they would direct you to the relevant authority.

OP If you had a child alone somewhere in the care of others how would you react to hearing they might be at risk from the very people you have entrusted with their care. This has to be reported.

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 28/03/2019 05:25

1 a DBS would be done through college and on the update service. - checked by the playgroup
2 references should be obtained
3 a proper interview and induction should be done

This is Safer Recruitment

This should all be done even if a volunteer!

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 28/03/2019 05:28

And re 'it's not my job to..'

It is your job to report any safeguarding issues. If you feel you can't talk to your DSL or SDSL then you must adhere to your whistle blowing policy.

Fatted · 28/03/2019 05:37

You need to raise your concerns with the president or your superior. They are the ones who potentially recruited her. They can then feed this back to where she is studying if it's believed to be a safeguarding issue. But really the people running this place should be doing all of these checks to weed these people out.

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