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Any quick reactions please? The term "Jewess"

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JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 25/03/2019 10:21

I am proofreading a document which contains this term. I feel quite surprised as I haven't seen it used in years, and it feels oddly old-fashioned and somehow rather patronising.

Is it a matter of taste or would you suggest updating? Presumably to "Jewish woman"?

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WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 25/03/2019 11:09

ah, right - apologies, then. I would still suggest getting this book if proofreading is something that someone is going to be doing fairly regularly, as it answers all those tricky little queries that a dictionary wouldn't - it's invaluable!

Nnnnnineteen · 25/03/2019 11:10

In my grandfather's 1960s First Aid to English, there was a huge list of male and female titles: jew, jewess, sultan, sultana etc. I wouldn't say it was necessarily offensive but clearly not a name in current use for the most part.

Antonin · 25/03/2019 11:11

I remember reading many years ago, sorry can’t recall reference but it was in relation to anti- semitism, that Jewess was to be avoided because it denigrated Jewess women. It was compared to lioness.
Also re equality issues one no longer speaks of actresses etc, all are actors. There is no term for a Jewish man so why for a woman?

moosesormeece · 25/03/2019 11:19

Personally when I read it I was taken aback. It feels very Victorian, a bit 'manageress' with an added hint of othering. You could probably argue that it wasn't meant to be offensive, but why not just go with 'Jewish woman' and avoid potentially putting people's backs up or looking out of touch.

Bezalelle · 25/03/2019 11:20

I am one, and it makes me bristle a bit. In the same archaic camp as the likes of "Chinawoman".

MadeleineMaxwell · 25/03/2019 11:30

All the nope from me. 'Jewish woman' is far better.

DontCallMeShitley · 25/03/2019 12:02

The last time I heard it was about 1984 when my elderly Jewish neighbour asked me if I was a Jewess. It was a Jewish area and it was the only time I ever heard it in about 25 years.

BadLad · 25/03/2019 12:34

Who are the target audience?

Labour Party members

reallybadidea · 25/03/2019 12:38

It's dehumanising, that is my issue with it.

GetOffTheRoof · 25/03/2019 12:44

Avoid like the plague. My immediate association is anti-semetic, and I recall Nazi propaganda commonly used the word.

MrsBertBibby · 25/03/2019 12:51

There is no term for a Jewish man

Umm, a Jew?

Vavaroomcoom · 25/03/2019 14:27

If it's something associated with the Labour Party then that's even more reason to avoid. There's already heightened sensitivity to anti-Semitism in Labour

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 25/03/2019 15:48

It isn't the Labour party 🤣 I think BadLad was being a little tongue in cheek there.

I have asked them to change it so thanks all for confirming my gut feeling.

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BadLad · 25/03/2019 23:06

It isn't the Labour party 🤣 I think BadLad was being a...

That is as far as your post read in the "I'm on" list. It was with some trepidation that I opened it to see how it continued.

Applesbananaspears · 26/03/2019 00:23

Absolutely do not use it

marvellousnightforamooncup · 26/03/2019 06:58

Zap it, old fashioned, out dated, potentially offensive.

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